so, this is the beginning of the end of softimage. to me a really bad decision
that makes me sad, but i have to live with it.

In the retrospective it was just a matter of time that one of the big three
(maya, max & softimage) would die, because they operate on the same market...


> Juhani Karlsson <[email protected]> hat am 4. März 2014 um 19:26
> geschrieben:
> 
>  If one has to decide between Bifrost or Houdini now - they must be pretty
> dumb to go with Bifrost. Who knows when that will be terminated? ; )
>  I hope most of the 3rd party developers will start to looking into FE and
> Houdini.
> 
> 
>  On 4 March 2014 20:19, Francisco Criado <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>    > > Hi Lawrence, i used flame for almost 3 years, and have to agree with
>    > > you that is an excelent tool, but i was refering to the market in
>    > > general, with nuke on the market rules changed, and autodesk didn't do
>    > > anything about it?
> >    Combustion? dead
> >    Toxic? no thanks
> >    Flame? 140.000 dollars, yes i know it comes with the hardware, but if i
> > have to make a new compositing department for a movie i wont spend that
> > money foe each compositor, and you can say flare, but there are no users on
> > market.
> >    So...autodesk bad decisions.
> > 
> > 
> >    On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Lawrence Nimrichter < [email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> >      > > >      Flame is doing quite well and is considered high end
> >      > > > compositing. The new versions have garnered lots of excitement
> >      > > > from the flame artists around here.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >      On Mar 4, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Francisco Criado < [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >          > > > > Its funny to see Autodesk failing over and over again,
> > >          > > > > they dissapeared from the high end compositing scenario
> > >          > > > > having great tools,  and now this.
> > > >          I' m adquiring products from now on with The Foundry family,
> > > > they just have one product for each area of post, and keep it simple.
> > > >          F.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >          On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, Chris Covelli <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >            > > > > >            Sorry if this question was answered
> > > >            > > > > > already, but does Autodesk plan on implementing any
> > > >            > > > > > of Softimage's features into Maya and Max?
> > > > > 
> > > > >            Chris Covelli
> > > > >            <http://www.polygonpusherinc.com/>
> > > > > 
> > > > >            <http://exocortex.com/products/species>
> > > > >            TurboSquid Models
> > > > > <http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/Polygon-Pusher?referral=Polygon-Pusher>
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >            On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Marc-Andre Carbonneau
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >              > > > > > > 
> > > > > >              I would of expected Luc-Eric to come here and tell us
> > > > > > how he and his team are making things better in Maya and that he’s
> > > > > > putting his XSI experience to good use
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              for Softimage users.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              From: [email protected]
> > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jens
> > > > > > Lindgren
> > > > > >              Sent: 4 mars 2014 12:21
> > > > > >              To: [email protected]
> > > > > >              Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 Last Release Announcement
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              My thought exactly!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              Please note that the right to use the Softimage license
> > > > > > will terminate at the end of the transition period if you are still
> > > > > > on Subscription. You will be transitioned to the latest release of
> > > > > > either 3ds Max or Maya depending on your initial choice. If you want
> > > > > > to continue to use your Softimage license after Feb 1, 2016 you
> > > > > > should not renew your Subscription contract for a period beyond that
> > > > > > date. You will be able to continue to use Softimage but will forfeit
> > > > > > any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              So we can't use Softimage after Feb 1, 2016 and still
> > > > > > be on some Autodesk Subscription. This make the choice pretty easy
> > > > > > to not be an Autodesk customer anymore. What the hell are they
> > > > > > thinking?!?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              /Jens
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Matt Morris
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              So if we decide to transition over to maya, in feb 2016
> > > > > > we will have no access to past projects? The only way that we can
> > > > > > continue to work with older data is to end our subscription?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              On 4 March 2014 17:13, olivier jeannel
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >              ...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >            > > > > >          > > > > 
> > > >      > > >    > >  > 
> 
> 
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