You are hitting a nerve there!

WARNING - Totally OT:

It's a fact that money does never "work", it's always people who do. If people pour their money onto the stock exchange to "make" more money,
somebody will have to actually do real work to produce that profit (produce some goods that did not exist before, like knitting a pullover, writing software, or making nice pictures with Softimage).
The stock exchange is nothing but a huge money turning machine that reduces the amount of freely available money on the side of the actual productive part of society, and those who already have enough money. Nothing has ever threatened social peace more than stock exchanges are currently doing. The good news is it will all regulate itself one way or the other. One way of regulation could be to re-establish control over stock markets and properly compensate people who do real work. (No company can have 70 billion of cash reserves and pretend to pay their workers adequately, talking of Apple). The other one is waiting for it's collapse and rebuilding society from it's ashes after the dust has settled. I'd rather go for the former, since the latter cost millions of lifes last time (Black Friday 1929, and resulting economic and social breakdown, ending in WW2).

The ugly part is that you can't escape and opt out, no matter on what side of the system you operate on. Even if you don't participate in stock trading you are still affected by it through higher taxes (money your government has to spend on saving banks from going bankrupt because they have badly speculated with the money you have already given them, deliberately or not),  reduced quality of living due to environmental pollution (kepping environments clean requires research and changes in production and consumption behaviors, which costs money that is not there), reduction of social services due to lack of money, and lower payment (the money that shareholders are getting is that part of your salery that you never get) - the days where a man could sustain a family of four with a single job are practically over, along with all the effects it has on families where both parents need to work full time, sometimes even in multiple jobs, just to barely make it, with children suffering the most from it.

Stock exchanges need to be decoupled from real world econimics. Let the rich play with their own money, not mine for "§%$ sake.
Nobody can make money in trading stocks and pretend to do it in good faith, not even for his children, which have to grow up in
the society we are all part of, utimately.

With all the venting going on in here it felt like a good opportunity to get this off my chest too :-)


And of that revenue, $20,000,000+ went to "key executive compensation" in 2013
That is down, 21%, from 2012. If the total income from M&E is only 7% of total income....
It's like shutting down the national park to balance the Federal budget.

Don't get me wrong... This is not a AD thing exclusively. This is going on
in corporate America every day. It is the main reason for separation of
the classes, in the US. The income gap is growing every day.

US productivity continues to clime as real median family income remains flat.

It is all driven by greed.




On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Paul Griswold <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, as I posted over on CGTalk, I don't think killing Softimage was a real business decision.  If M&E account for only 7% of ADSK's revenue, and Softimage is one of the smallest components of that revenue, it's insignificant.  But, executives need to pound their chests like gorillas and proclaim to the shareholders & board that they're trimming the fat, etc., etc.  If it was truly a business decision, they could have cut a lot more than just Softimage to make an impact on the bottom line.  This was all for show IMHO.

Realistically, they could cancel all of their M&E products if they're 7% of the revenue.  They own enough patents & intellectual property that they could essentially hold the industry hostage and never develop another product.  Again Joe Alter comes to mind.  Why develop anything when you can sit back and force people to pay licensing fees year after year?

Hopefully enough noise is made to start stirring up some anti-trust claims.  Autodesk is clearly behaving as a monopoly at this point.  

-Paul






On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Emilio Hernandez <[email protected]> wrote:
Well we all still think that putting Softimage to rest is a big mistake.

Motion Builder also has not major improvements.  So we know how all will end.

"We will continue to support and develop..."



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2014-03-05 15:02 GMT-06:00 Jordi Bares <[email protected]>:

If they kill any of those the only one I think would be a mistake would be Motion Builder… it has great potential if they decide to actually develop it… it has been in limbo mode like Softimage for years now and killing the Mac version was truly annoying.

3DSMax… well… the architecture is so old and messy (have you tried developing for Max?) I wonder how are they going to sustain it… 

With regards with the users… they may offer the same great deal we are receiving..  (irony)

arhghh

Jordi Bares

On 5 Mar 2014, at 19:45, Emilio Hernandez <[email protected]> wrote:

More reasons to stay with softimage

El mar 5, 2014 1:42 PM, "Gustavo Eggert Boehs" <[email protected]> escribió:
Yes, but what they might do (are doing imho) is just keeping updates as irrelevant as possible for animation, not to encourage new users to pick it up with that in mind.

Em quarta-feira, 5 de março de 2014, Steven Caron <[email protected]> escreveu:
i agree with the first two, just 3dsmax has too much installed user base. i know we are mad and we are making a stink about it... but if they axed max?! autodesk might have to consider extra security...


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Jordi Bares <[email protected]> wrote:
The writing is on the wall. This is my take.

1 - Mudbox is next as Zbrush has truly wiped the market.

2 - Morion Builder next as they implement some tech in maya.

3 - 3DMax goes next.

Anyone want to bet?



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