Very few of the original developers are left. The only one that was outspoken before and remains outspoken now seems to be Luc-Eric (there's a small handful of others is my understanding, but not many from the pre-Singapore switch), and he seems happier than a pig in muck, so clearly it's not bad for everybody.
On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Mihai Iliuta <[email protected]> wrote: > "but maybe,with some of the element from the Softimage dev team,something > good could be done and maybe we'll see some huge improvement on Maya and > Max" > > You know, it would be interesting to know the thoughts of those > developers. How do they feel working for this company now? Especially ex > XSI devs. I would still like to think the talented people that create this > software do it because of passion, and that they truly care about their > product. I haven't seen any other 3D app come close to the* > thoughtfullness* that went into every aspect of XSI. And why I picked up > within days of trying it out. Everything else compared to it was clunky > mess. You felt it was created by artists, not accountants with no damn idea > of ergonomics. To see that kind of talent which created such software, be > assimilated and forgotten in the abysmal hole that is this company would be > the saddest thing of this whole mess. > > So, yes, what are the developers thinking right now would be interesting > to know.... > > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Nicolas Esposito <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hey Mihai, >> >From one side its clear that they put one guy to explain a bit better >> the transition situation and,of course,tale a bunch of shit because they >> sure were expecting this >> >> If mr Vinneau want to still work for AD even if they are corporate >> business who don't care at all about their customer I don't care that >> much,is his decision,so if he get a check for all the shit I don't >> care,because I strongly doubt that who pulled the plug on Softimage will >> never go out public and say "I'm responsible for the shutdown of Softimage" >> >> What I would like to see however is one fo the AD CEO make a video for >> the entire situation,and explain why greed is good (Wall Street reference >> :-p ) >> >> If we're talking about corporate aholes you would also keep your money >> under the bed amd grow your own food >> >> Its business,Softimage never was the first choice for AD,we all know why >> they bought it,and it was a matter of time >> >> What I meant abot the "big hit on subscription" was related to the fact >> that,if they start to loose customers fast,maybe they'll start to do >> something about the situation >> Softimage wont be resurrected,but maybe,with some of the element from the >> Softimage dev team,something good could be done and maybe we'll see some >> huge improvement on Maya and Max >> But they better do something quick,because everyone now realized what AD >> is really about....money money money!!!! >> Il 07/mar/2014 23:05 "Mihai Iliuta" <[email protected]> ha scritto: >> >> Nicolas, I'm not sure I understand your position here. On one hand you're >>> saying: >>> "personal attacks to someone who's not responsable of the entire >>> situation is just wrong" >>> >>> on the other: >>> "but in this case I really hope that AD will receive a huge hit in >>> subscriptions and l'ora of developers switch to other companies,because >>> this is a really really bad decision" >>> >>> So on one hand, poor Mr Vienneau is not responsible, but you still wish >>> that eventually enough people will leave that AD goes bankrupt and >>> Mr.Vienneau looses his job. >>> >>> That's kind of more personal than my words :P And btw, I hope for the >>> precise same thing as well. >>> >>> Ok. If Mr.Vienneau and his lies aren't really responsible than who is? >>> Things just don't get decided by themselves, it's not a machine deciding >>> this. >>> >>> And if I was in Mr Vinneaus shoes, I would feel ill to my stomach coming >>> in to work each day, working for absolute scumbags. >>> >>> Enjoy that pay check Mr Vienneau. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Nicolas Esposito <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Agree,personal attacks to someone who's not responsable of the entire >>>> situation is just wrong >>>> I can understand how pissed off you are (and here a lot of people are >>>> pissed off) but right now this ia the situation,so better deal with it or >>>> be angry for the next two years >>>> >>>> AD showed that they rather push their "old" softwares instead of >>>> Softimage,and we all know how advanced this software is (not for >>>> everything,but we all know it ) >>>> >>>> I do not want anyone to loose their job,but in this case I really hope >>>> that AD will receive a huge hit in subscriptions and l'ora of developers >>>> switch to other companies,because this is a really really bad decision >>>> >>>> I hoped that they would keep up Softimage at least as a VFX tool >>>> (because of ICE) and push it for game development (which is widely used >>>> inside big game developers ),but no,they "create" Maya Lite for >>>> that....while Softimage (since release 7?) have already lots of tools for >>>> game development.... >>>> >>>> Cheers AD CEOs, you fucked it up big time >>>> Il 07/mar/2014 22:44 "Mihai Iliuta" <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>> >>>> You are listening?? >>>>> >>>>> Ok, listen to your own bullshit: >>>>> >>>>> "The first is to flatly call out that the rumor that the eol of >>>>> Softimage and 3dsmax is upon us is totally false." >>>>> >>>>> "Cory Mogk is now also responsible for Softimage and we have been >>>>> working with the team on the future of the product with lots of key >>>>> customers." >>>>> >>>>> "We understand people make their living from this software and that >>>>> they make huge decisions about their projects and companies and we take >>>>> that responsibility very seriously." >>>>> >>>>> "Again the door is open to contact us or challenge us. Please let >>>>> everyone you know their products are safe." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So today, we can safely say you are a lying piece of shit. You have no >>>>> dignity, you have no character, and you have no word. I can't imagine any >>>>> developer feeling any pride anymore working for you or this fucked up >>>>> company. What you have done here and HOW you've done it, is irreparable >>>>> and >>>>> you and your company is from now on going downhill. You expect anybody to >>>>> ever trust you or your company again? Is that worth anything for a >>>>> business? It's worth everything. >>>>> >>>>> Nobody finds it in the least suspicious why SI was killed now? When >>>>> the whole community around SI and the nr of independent developers working >>>>> developing tools for it was at an all time high??? >>>>> >>>>> I don't know when you lost your balls and your word Mr. Vienneau, but >>>>> "good luck" regaining both. >>>>> >>>>> Piece of shit. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Perry Harovas <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> While Dan's heart is breaking (and so is mine), I still have (at >>>>>> least) one nagging question: >>>>>> >>>>>> Clearly this has been under discussion for a while at Autodesk, so >>>>>> why were the following comments >>>>>> from September 5th of 2012 made: >>>>>> >>>>>> *"The rumor that the EOL of Softimage and 3DS Max is upon us is >>>>>> totally false."* >>>>>> >>>>>> So, if I understand this correctly, what I get out of it is that when >>>>>> Autodesk assures customers that their product is not on the chopping >>>>>> block, >>>>>> that statement is really only good for about a year and a half (less >>>>>> if you take into account that this EOL must have been decided a while >>>>>> back). >>>>>> >>>>>> That doesn't imbue anyone with much confidence. I am not a 3DS Max >>>>>> user, but if I was, I think I'd be worried, and would take any Autodesk >>>>>> assurances that there was no reason to worry >>>>>> with a very large grain of salt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone please, finally, address this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Tim Crowson < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Chris! And thanks as well for the update to the licensing >>>>>>> terms. That's a big deal. >>>>>>> -Tim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/7/2014 2:14 PM, Dan Pejril wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good to know you are listening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you listen closely, you can heart my heart breaking.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/7/2014 3:01 PM, Chris Vienneau wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just want to let you know there are people from the maya dev and >>>>>>> pm teams coming online to this forum but we are shipping software and >>>>>>> answering a lot of calls but the mails you are writing are being passed >>>>>>> back and forth as they are coming at a furious pace. Stay tuned for some >>>>>>> answers and we plan on doing some private webinars under NDA for soft >>>>>>> users >>>>>>> to ask questions direct to us. Anyone interested in such a thing please >>>>>>> write me a private mail at [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thx. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cv/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Perry Harovas >>>>>> 203-448-7206 >>>>>> Animation and Visual Effects >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.TheAfterImage.com <http://www.theafterimage.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> -24 years experience >>>>>> -Co-Author of "Mastering >>>>>> Maya"<http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Maya-Complete-Perry-Harovas/dp/0782125212> >>>>>> -Member of the Visual Effects Society >>>>>> (VES)<http://www.visualeffectssociety.com/> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
