Hi Emilio and Oscar:

If that's the case, I'll polish up the animation first, then cache it out and use that result to drive the cloth simulation rather than doing it all in one scene.

I'm still going to try and see if I can solve this problem within a referenced workflow though when I get some spare time...I think I must have overlooked something wrt to the way I set up the Syflex ICE tree. (Otherwise if I don't get this working, I'll never hear the end of it from my professor about nCloth being superior =P )

@ olivier: Hi Olivier, I actually ran into that problem in the main rig scene; as you said, copy/pasting the tree resolved it. :D In this case though because the ICE tree is referenced, I wasn't able to do that in the animation scene...but what I'll probably do is delete the ice tree from the referenced model, re-create the tree in the animation scene itself, and see if that works.

Thanks for replying guys! Have to admit caching the animation itself wasn't the first thing that came to my mind. Again, sorry to bother with such a simple simulation question, but it's hard to find resources on Syflex....

Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang

On 3/10/2014 3:22 AM, olivier jeannel wrote:

I remember having sometimes weird issues (simulation behaving badly) when changing topology of a syflex sim (for example increasing a grid density) or copying the ice tree to another object. Usualy copying the whole tree deleting and pasting in a fresh new icetree solved the problems.


Le 10/03/2014 10:57, Oscar Juarez a écrit :
What we do is always simulate in another scene, since we point cache everything, we cache the simulation scene and load that cache in the lighting scene, so we avoid issues with simulation and referenced models.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Emilio Hernandez <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Stupid question maybe but have you baked the syflex sim before
    importing as a reference model?

    El mar 10, 2014 10:49 AM, "Siew Yi Liang" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:

        Hi all:

        I'm working on a little test animation in XSI where a guy
        wearing some pants is doing acrobatics, and I was playing
        around with Syflex in order to get some cloth simulation
        going for fun. Right now, I have a main scene file that
        contains the rig with a Syflex ICE tree, and the simulation
        works fine there. However, once I export it to a model and
        replace the path of the referenced model in the scene that
        contains my animation, the simulation fails to behave as
        expected. Additionally, I've noticed some of the changes I
        made to the rig seem to be broken in the referenced scene
        (mostly custom params that I created for the DisplayInfo in
        order to tweak the sim). Additionally, the sim appears to
        behave entirely differently than in the original rig scene.
        (I tried doing a rough animation in the original scene file
        to test the sim behaviour and it behaved as expected)
        Notably, when I export the model from the original scene, I
        get the warning:

        // WARNING : 3000 - Model Runner_Rig does not contain all
        inputs for object Pants_M_sim_rdrGeo to perform.  Imported
        model may not behave as expected.

        I have no idea what nodes/inputs are missing though. The
        entire model afaik should be self-contained, as it's not
        referencing anything else.

        I tried importing a new referenced model and copying the
        animation from the old rig onto the new one: storing an
        action and then applying it resulted in odd transfer: the IK
        handles had incorrect animation transferred, but most of the
        other controls' animation transferred correctly. I tried
        copying all the keys from the animated rig via the dope
        sheet, but I couldn't paste the keys on the new model; the
        option was grayed out (!) I didn't change anything in the rig
        hierarchy apart from adding custom params to the DisplayInfo,
        so I don't think this is normal...

        Does anyone have any best practice guidelines for this where
        ref models+Syflex is concerned? I've never run into these
        problems with referenced models before, but then again, this
        is my first time playing around with Syflex, so I'm not sure
        if I've done something wrong here. (Especially wrt updating
        referenced models; right now I just basically opened the
        model PPG and replaced the filename to point to the updated
        model which I've always been doing. Is this possibly causing
        the issue?)

        Thanks!

-- Yours sincerely,
        Siew Yi Liang




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