> Of the lot probably only Fabric can lay a heritage claim of sorts I believe, > not that it really matters though. > All in all this is taking an odd turn, and I think part of it stems from a > general misunderstanding of development by people who don't do it for a > living.
I like how you are the arbiter of who's a "real" ICE developer, from your perspective as a user in Australia and not involved with the development in Montreal. Anyway, the point was only about that animation workflow bit being a bit of a stretch imho. The Fabric or Bifrost/ICE heritage.. well that's a bit more nuanced discussion than claims laid over developers, because AFAIK neither group is trying to simply re-create ICE. Bifrost is a group of developers from various background, some knowing nothing of either ICE or Maya, but getting Oscars for their fluid work (http://tinyurl.com/o9vatz5), old people, new people, plus a group people from Softimage including ICE core developers, caching/SDK/modelling/etc, QA,doc,etc. But they're not really trying to re-create ICE or make a descendant of it, what they're saying is that the design of the graph workflows (still to come) will be informed by it. There is not a single day at work where someone doesn't say "we did this that way in ICE because ..." But there are also a lot of ideas coming from other places, background, and production experiences. On 10 June 2015 at 19:26, Raffaele Fragapane <raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I wasn't implying Jason did :) I was just saying I don't know of SESI ever > mentioning ICE developers coming on board. > > As for the rest, I don't think it was meant to be misleading, but sure, > people will make some tenuous logical connections at times and might have > misled themselves making them. > > By the same standards loosened only the tiniest bit then AD's claims about > ICE dev are also somewhat weak, since the people who did the actual heavy > lifting, design and architectural work are, AFAIK, not the ones that ended > up staying 'til today (speaking of ICE, not Naiad). This is where it starts > getting uncomfortable as it nears name dropping, and I'm not comfortable > with that. > > There might have been 20 people tagged in relation to ICE, but at the heart > of it there are what, 4 or 5 names that really made a difference? And of > those one has left CG and one has left Software vendors (or had last time I > checked, which was a while ago). >
