Crate just tends to be a more predictable pipeline from Maya/Max to XSI and
that's why folk at some large studios have been recompiling it each year
for the new Max and Maya releases.

On 27 July 2017 at 20:22, Leoung O'Young <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I have downloaded it but haven't tested it out. We have to rely on another
> animator who is supplying us with the Maya 2017 Crate file.
> Does Crate do much more than the Autodesk Alembic importer/exporter?
>
> Thanks,
> Leoung
>
>
> On 7/27/2017 3:17 PM, Jonathan Moore wrote:
>
> Leoung, did you get a chance to check out the Crate for Maya 2017 I posted?
>
> On 27 July 2017 at 20:15, Leoung O'Young <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> Thanks so much for such a detail explanation. We will test it out.
>>
>> Leoung
>>
>>
>> On 7/27/2017 2:48 PM, Sven Constable wrote:
>>
>> XSI considers alembic files not as regular external files. So they are
>> not in the External Files manager. The only exception is when there are
>> inside a ref model, then the ref model is external an everything in it.
>>
>> Regarding relative pathes:
>>
>> Yes , you can do that  using the token [Project Path] in the alembic
>> path. If you left it blank its actually the same. XSI will search for the
>> file in the projects root directory per default. So if the animator puts it
>> in the projects root folder, the path can be left empty and XSI should find
>> it too. But probably a subfolder is more suitable. Eg. "[Project
>> Path]\Alembic-Files\findme.abc" should work, even without the token.
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [
>> mailto:[email protected]
>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Leoung O'Young
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2017 7:03 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Alembic file from Maya to Softimage 2015
>>
>>
>>
>> HI Sven,
>>
>> The original Alembic file came from Maya 2017, exported using the
>> Autodesk Alembic. My animator imported it into 2015 Soft using the Autodesk
>> Alembic and put it into his Soft scene. He is able to reopen the scene
>> without problems. He sends the Soft scene file and the Alembic file, and I
>> am placing it in the same place in the project the animator has it on his
>> computer. When I open the Soft scene file, it doesn't know the path to the
>> Alembic file and crashes Soft.
>> Is there a way of saving the Soft scene so it remembers the relative path
>> to the Alembic file? It doesn’t show in the External File manager, which is
>> where we’d expect to fix it if it was the link to a texture image or
>> something.
>>
>> Anyone know if Crate can be use in Maya 2017?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leoung
>>
>>
>> On 7/27/2017 10:11 AM, Sven Constable wrote:
>>
>> if it only crashes on other workstations it is probably not that XSI
>> can't remember the path, because then it would crash on the same
>> workstation on re-opening as well.
>>
>> I suspect a mistake in the file path. The abc file might be accessible
>> from the animators workstation but not from yours. Or maybe the animator
>> used the crate plugin for the abc import and it's not installed on your
>> workstation? Sorry if this sounds obvious.
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [
>> mailto:[email protected]
>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Leoung O'Young
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2017 2:08 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Alembic file from Maya to Softimage 2015
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Walter,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>> It crashes right after loading, it kicks me right out of Soft.
>> I don't think it isn't a security problem because I can load the scene if
>> my animator remove the link to the Alembic file.
>> For it to work I had to put the Alembic file in the root directory and
>> re-link it. That is a pain. Haven't test it with Royal Render if I re-link
>> it.
>> Copy All doesn't do the job.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leoung
>>
>> On 7/27/2017 3:52 AM, wavo wrote:
>>
>> hello Leoung,
>>
>> when did it crash?! during the loading process or when softimage trys to
>> build the scenery
>> in the viewport?
>> Did you try to merge the saved scene in a fresh new Scene,
>> another option mute first the viewport/s and the merge, if this works
>> check the Alembic-path.
>> Maybe it can also be a security-problem with the files, start softimage
>> on the other computer as an administrator and then try to load the scene .
>> And last i dont no if softimage saves the alembics when Externals Files
>> is set to Copy All!
>>
>>  good luck
>>
>> Walter
>>
>> Am 7/26/2017 um 5:25 PM schrieb Leoung O'Young:
>>
>> Sorry, I am probably not putting this correctly.
>> We can import the ABC file in but when we saved the scene and open it up
>> on another workstation it crashes.
>> It looks like it doesn't remember the path to the ABC file. Is there a
>> way of saving the scene so it is in the project file, like how it works
>> with external files?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leoung
>>
>>
>>
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