There is a whole raft of improvements they should/could make to the user
experience without jeopordising their principles: Improving the fcurve
editor and having time controls in the texture node are two examples
that spring immediately to mind.
On 11/05/2018 16:05, Jordi Bares wrote:
You hit the nail on the head with “Slow stop-start workflows can stall
your creative flow”, that is the critical factor for me as well, in
the sense that in a few occasions (may be too many?) you are
forced/invited to stop your creative flow to write your own tool (for
example a path deform) and that should be there from the start. This
is getting better though so I am hopeful.
But I do not agree with your suggestion of “wrapping”, the self tools
really is a framework to do those but I don’t think SideFX should be
the one promoting traditional workflows because I suspect it will lead
to linear networks and although the motive is great, the result may be
a non-Houdini approach, remember Houdini is a huge massively parallel
ICE network.
And yes, Softimage workflow is/was king, no doubt…
Jb
On 11 May 2018, at 14:28, <p...@bustykelp.com
<mailto:p...@bustykelp.com>> <p...@bustykelp.com
<mailto:p...@bustykelp.com>> wrote:
I Agree.
I know that Houdini has a wider scope and thus more ability to
achieve ultimately whatever you want, than XSI / ICE.
However, in my character workflow, I’m diving into ICE, making a
deformer, going back and adding shapes, reading nearby surfaces, and
in ICE using them to rotate the vectors of shapes deltas, readjusting
the shapes, and generally ping ponging around between programming and
using ‘traditional’ tools to feed into the procedure that leads to
the final result. In XSI that all happens without the slightest delay
or workaround as everything is just there. for me personally, I can
do everything i wish to do with ICE/XSI.
Obviously I know XSI inside out which helps, but my forays into
Houdini never give me hope that I will ever have that workflow at my
fingertips.
I feel like it needs a layer above the deeper procedural approach,
that gives you some tools to manage blendshapes etc. Maya now has a
decent version of Softimage’s shape mixer. I know that Houdini
doesnt’ want to keep its ‘everything procedural’ approach but
sometimes you just want to make a shape and thats it, and you might
want to see it in context of the rig, and be able to do a ‘secondary
shape mode’ etc, and not have to make your own ‘tools’ to do this.
Sculpting is not something that fits well within Houdini’s
philosophy, but again ,if you want to do characters, then its a
necessary thing to be able to make poses look good. and you dont
always want to export, Zbrush it, import. hook up blendshape shape
etc.. Slow stop-start workflows can stall your creative flow.
I definitely think that if they can add a level of ‘art’ tools that
can feed back into the procedural system seamlessly without
interfering , then it would make Houdini more appealing and fun to use.
*From:*Alastair Hearsum <mailto:alast...@glassworks.co.uk>
*Sent:*Friday, May 11, 2018 2:03 PM
*To:*softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
*Subject:*Re: Houdini : non VFX jobs?
I see ease of access as a liberating force
On 11/05/2018 12:47, Jordi Bares wrote:
I see technology and maths as a liberation force so I want to think
it is about a personal attitude towards the challenge of getting out
of your comfort zone, not age (but may be the fact that keep getting
older makes me biased?? ;-)
jb
On 10 May 2018, at 20:38, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com
<mailto:facialdel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm from an old fine art degree. Proceduralism and other math /
vector thingy are the best creative things that happened to me :)
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87-91 Newman Street
London
W1T 3EY
T +44 (0)20 7434 1182
glassworks.co.uk
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