Dear Brian,
Thank you and in line...

Best Regards,
Tina TSOU
http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:21 PM
To: Tina TSOU
Cc: Rémi Després; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Softwires] draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation

Hi Tina,

On 2011-08-21 14:08, Tina TSOU wrote:
...
> If an average IPv4 user is consuming 200 ports (or whatever
> value you prefer to assume) with their favourite p2p app, that
> is what sets the number of IPv4 users per shared address. It's
> the number of simultaneous ports, not the amount of traffic,
> that counts.
> [Tina:
> These drafts attempt to solve this issue.
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tsou-pcp-natcoord/

This doesn't create new ports; it just helps to allocate
them more rationally.
[Tina: When I see your comments about consuming 200 ports, I thought about the 
motivation of NAT-COORD is to solve the issue of one iTunes, Google Map 
application consumes 200~300 ports at a time. I did not think about 
Stateful/Stateless at that time.

In the use cases you mentioned above, do you only mean static port allocation 
issue with stateless mechanisms? Or it can be either stateful or stateless? 

The stateless address sharing schemes (4rd and friends) allocate a port range 
to each subscriber statically. Static allocation is necessary for the mechanism 
to be stateless.
There are all the advantages of a stateless mechanism (see the motivation draft 
for a list of these advantages).

The problem with static allocation is that it cannot adapt quickly to 
subscriber demand. If for example you have one subscriber that is consuming a 
lot of ports, you cannot assign more ports to it. Once it's assigned, it's 
static and hard to change.
]

> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhou-softwire-b4-nat/

If I understand this correctly, it avoids NAT444 (which is a
good thing, and would make
draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request unnecessary). But
again, it doesn't create new ports or new public IPv4 addresses,
which was my point.

4rd and 4via6 share this property of course.

   Brian
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