Hi Yuchi,

On 2012/11/14, at 5:56, "Yuchi Chen" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Satoru,
>  
> I think the main issue here is not about "naming", but about the original 
> motivation of MAP. AFAIK MAP draft promotes a stateless provisioning method 
> using mapping with address and port. Although the algorithm MAP draft 
> promotes is kind of complicated and couples v4 and v6 addresses, which 
> introduces a potential threat of flexibility,

MAP introduce complication and flixibility threat!? Not at all.
So then, could you answer how much complicated is complicated, and how much 
flexibility do you need?

> but it's well designed and beautiful indeed and makes MAP attractive to those 
> who want such a stateless solution. If MAP turns out a stateful solution in 
> 1:1 mode (no matter what kind of state it's like), I don't think it will be 
> so charming to these people any more, and I think people who wants 1:1 may 
> prefer to another solution which is much simpler, satisfies the 1:1 scenario 
> well and does not introduce any flexibility problem.

Why 1:1 is stateful?
I'm not clear where is the threshold to distinguish stateful and stateless? 
N=2, 3, or 4???

>  
> It will be appreciated if you would so kind clarify the real motivation of 
> MAP, and the meaning of 'mapping' you used to describe the DS-Lite (which is 
> a well-known stateful solution) if possible, and thus it may help us keep 
> discussion more constructively.
>  

Doesn't AFTR maintain mapping of remote IPv6 endpoint address with IPv4 address 
and port?

cheers,
--satoru

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