Arrfh I see...  So SolR is the search engine for a datastore....  Is that what 
mongo is.. A datastore bit. 


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From: "Jack Krupansky-2 [via Lucene]" 
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Date: 02/07/2013  17:51  (GMT+00:00) 
To: fabio1605 <fabio.to...@btinternet.com> 
Subject: Re: Newbie SolR - Need advice 
 
Consider DataStax Enterprise - it combines Cassandra for NoSql data storage 
with Solr for indexing - fully integrated. 

http://www.datastax.com/

-- Jack Krupansky 

-----Original Message----- 
From: fabio1605 
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:44 PM 
To: [hidden email] 
Subject: Re: Newbie SolR - Need advice 

Hi 

Ok I'm even more confused now...  Sorry for even more stupid questions..... 

So if it's not a database replacement....  Where do we keep the database 
then..... 

We have a website that is a documentation website that store documents.  It 
has over 130 million records in a table and 50 million in 2 other plus lots 
of little tables 

Most searches are like searching on references or for customer information 
etc. 

However with so much information stored ms sql is starting to get slower.... 

We have approx 100 tables across 4 different database 

So this is why I started to look at SolR 

Q1 if we used SolR would we still use sql as well as SolR or does SolR 
become sql (speaking theoretically) 

Q2 if so...  How do we move all the data across to SolR. 

Q3 is SolR useful for what we need.....  Or is sql the better option based 
on our circumstances.  50percent of our load is from a website...  50 
percent is from scripts adding the information to the site etc.... 

Sorry for the silly question I'm just getting really confused now 


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From: "Sandeep Mestry [via Lucene]" 
<[hidden email]> 
Date: 02/07/2013  17:29  (GMT+00:00) 
To: fabio1605 <[hidden email]> 
Subject: Re: Newbie SolR - Need advice 

Hi Fabio, 

No, Solr isn't the database replacement for MS SQL. 
Solr is built on top of Lucene which is a search engine library for text 
searches. 

Solr in itself is not a replacement for any database as it does not support 
any relational db features, however as Jack and David mentioned its fully 
optimised search engine platform that can provide all search related 
features like faceting, highlighting etc. 
Solr does not have a *database*. It stores the data in binary files called 
indexes <http://lucene.apache.org/core/3_0_3/fileformats.html>. These 
indexes are populated with the data from the database. Solr provides an 
inbuilt functionality through DataImportHandler component to get the data 
and generate indexes. 

When you say, your web servers are mainly doing search function, do you 
mean it is a text search and you use queries with clauses as 'like', 'in' 
etc. (in addition to multiple joints) to get the results? Does the web 
application need faceting? If yes, then solr can be your friend to get it 
through. 

Do remember that it always takes some time to get the new concepts from 
understanding through to implementation. As David mentioned already, it 
*is* going to be a bumpy ride at the start but *definitely* a sensational 
one. 

Good Luck, 
Sandeep 



On 2 July 2013 17:09, fabio1605 <[hidden email]> wrote: 

> Thanks guys 
> 
> So SolR is actually a database replacement for mssql...  Am I right.... 
> 
> 
> We have a lot of perl scripts that contains lots of sql insert 
> queries..... Etc 
> 
> 
> How do we query the SolR database from scripts....  I know I have a lot to 
> learn still so excuse my ignorance. 
> 
> Also...  What is mongo and how does it compare 
> 
> I just don't understand how in 10years of Web development I have never 
> heard of SolR till last week 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> -------- Original message -------- 
> From: "David Quarterman [via Lucene]" < 
> [hidden email]> 
> Date: 02/07/2013  16:57  (GMT+00:00) 
> To: fabio1605 <[hidden email]> 
> Subject: RE: Newbie SolR - Need advice 
> 
> Hi Fabio, 
> 
> Like Jack says, try the tutorial. But to answer your question, SOLR isn't 
> a bolt on to SQLServer or any other DB. It's a fantastically fast 
> indexing/searching tool. You'll need to use the DataImportHandler (see the 
> tutorial) to import your data from the DB into the indices that SOLR uses. 
> Once in there, you'll have more power & flexibility than SQLServer would 
> ever give you! 
> 
> Haven't tried SOLR on Windows (I guess your environment) but I'm sure 
> it'll work using Jetty or Tomcat as web container. 
> 
> Stick with it. The ride can be bumpy but the experience is sensational! 
> 
> DQ 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: fabio1605 [mailto:[hidden email]] 
> Sent: 02 July 2013 16:16 
> To: [hidden email] 
> Subject: Newbie SolR - Need advice 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> we have a MSSQL Server which is just getting far to large now and 
> performance is dying! the majority of our webservers mainly are doing 
> search function so i thought it may be best to move to SolR But i know 
> very 
> little about it! 
> 
> My questions are! 
> 
> Does SolR Run as a bolt on to MSSQL - as in the data is still in MSSQL and 
> SolR is just the search bit between? 
> 
> Im really struggling to understand the point of SOLR etc so if someone 
> could point me to a Dummies website id apprecaite it! google is throwing 
> to 
> much confusion at me! 
> 
> 
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