From: "John Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Friday 30 April 2004 15:36, jdow wrote:
> > Dan, you are in an industry that is dominated by people who harvest
optout
> > as a means of obtaining new addresses to spam. Do you seriously wonder
that
> > people would ignore opt-out and merely blackball you?
>
> Dan said: Speaking as an operator of several double-opt-in mailing lists
>
> Double opt in is different than Opt out.
>
> Double Opt In is what you had to do to subscribe to THIS list.

John, *I* am aware of the difference. "Mundanes" tend to lump all bulk
mailers and remailers into the same ball, particularly if they have
forgotten how to get off a list that they have forgotten subscribing to.
(I've seen a person who signed his email as an administrator on a network
at MIT do this one.) Many will toss the name of the double opt in or
confirmed opt in list at SpamCop as their way of getting off, forgetting
that SpamCop will remove all trace of their ID from the message.

This is why I generically do not like BLs as a solution. They seem to try
to hammer nails with a shotgun. No matter how you use the shotgun to hammer
that nail it's not an acceptable solution.

{^_^}

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