On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, 7:53:17 PM, Bob Apthorpe wrote:
> There's a world of difference between actively and intentionally
> providing connectivity and DNS services to spammers and having your
> website referred to in a spam without your knowledge or consent.

Yes, and a service that blacklists both types equally at
times is potentially less than fully useful.

> Q: Why
> aren't the Yahoo stock listing pages listed in the SURBL (anymore?)

They have not been included since we whitelisted yahoo on day
one, along with many other legitimate domains.

> How
> does one tell the spammer domains from innocents? Be careful when
> bringing up consistent application of principles... ;-)

It's true that gray hats are cause for consternation at times.
I've whitelisted many domains for SURBLs that I would blacklist
for personal use because they have some legitimate use.

> Short answer - if you don't like what's listed in SPEWS, don't block
> based on the their list.

Certainly I don't.  There are only 3 or 4 mail source RBLs I use
on mail servers I set up: spamhaus, ordb, dsbl, ...

> If you don't like their tactics, invent
> something more effective.

We believe we may have.  Addressing the URIs advertised in
spams is very direct, and RBLs are a good way to distribute
and use the data.

Jeff C.
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