Are you going to participate in a constructive discussion or not? I am not
a troll, at least I wasn't the last time I looked. I have absolutely no
idea what an 'ignorebot' is, it sound like it is bad and I hope I don't fit
the bill.
Please note the words to describe the use of this news group listed at the
SC site "Help Only (spamcop.help) Please expect new user questions and be
polite.". I don't feel you are being very polite. You seem to use terms
not suited for a beginner. I find this very confusing and not very helpful.
I find that most of the reposes in this thread to contain a certain disdain
for the newcomer to the spam word. How can this be useful?
I apologize about the 'SPAM'/'spam' thing, this is proof that I am not an
expert in this area.
Your reference to an 'ISP' and 'IP' are not a part of what I am suggesting.
I think these are found in the header of a message. I am referring to a URL
found on the body of a message. How is your concern about this related to
my suggestion. Please refer to my response to Ellen and see if this makes
it any clearer what I am suggesting.
Most of the concerns I have received so far have been simple negativity with
no explanation to go with it. I can not defend my suggestion from a
statement like "It would foster mindless ..." something. I need an
explanation as to how you feel it is going to adversely affect SC and I will
try to either explain how it wouldn't or adjust my suggestion so that it
wouldn't.
Believe me, I am only trying to help.
Paul Coleman
"Robi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 9bp4sf$q65$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9bp4sf$q65$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > And your point is?
> -> . <- there's a point :)
> >
> > Are you trying to imply that because I own an domain (I have already
said
> I
> > own more than one) I should be an expert on SPAMming? I have already
said
> I
> > am not. I write programs for a living, that does not make me a SPAM
> expert,
> > nor does it make me want to be a SPAM expert.
> First of all, "SPAM" is a trademark and is owned by Hormel Foods.
> http://www.spam.com/ci/ci_in.htm
> UBE/UCE is called "spam" (note the lower-case writing)
>
> Owning a domain (or even more), trying to get it whitelisted and whining
not
> being an expert does imply a lot of things in an anti-spamming community.
>
> > Now, How do you think that my suggestion would do what you are saying.
> Then
> > perhaps I can suggest how is wouldn't have to. Just saying it will be
bad
> > without say why you think it is doesn't help get through this.
>
> A regular user (dial-up) logs into spamcop. His IP address changes every
> time
> he connects to his ISP. Following his IP address only gets you to his ISP,
> and
> that ISP (i.e Bellsouth, or <place your spam friendly ISP here>) would of
> course in your suggestion be "innocent".
> You're talking about a subdomain (i.e. Bellsouth/mydomain). You also said
> (and
> the subject title notes it) that (I quote)
> "I just made an embarrassing mistake. I got two emails from someone
selling
> search engine access. They had my domain in the body."
> First of all, if I receive spam with my domain in the body, I take more
> action
> than trying to get spamcop to mark it as innocent. And I can assure you,
> that
> chickenboner would be eating only the bones and cardboard of the KFC
> leftovers
> behind his trailer.
> Besides that, I would *know* who my ISP is, and I would *know* that I
should
> inform my ISP about the abuse/Joe-job in case more of them arrive.
>
> >
> > I also have no idea what you are saying here:
> I inserted it for you to read (and marked the words):
> but the message wasn't meant for you.
> >>> I would like to *here more about this. I haven't seen anything about
> this
> >>> anywhere. I also wouldn't know what it was about until now, so perhaps
I
> >>> *sew it and it *when right by.
> > > ok, I think here we got someone who got hurt and is trying to get
> cleaned.
> > > check the above "sentens" and tell me if my instinct is "rite"
> > Are you trying to insult me so that I become defensive? This is not
being
> a
> > help with this.
> >
> > If you have a valid concern with my suggestion, please explain way you
> have
> > it so that I can have a chance to respond.
> Everybody who has replied has shown the same *valid* concern, but you seem
> to
> be like an ignorebot or troll (the latter which I don't really want to use
> yet,
> although this thread has expanded to trollsize magnitude) who doesn't want
> to
> accept things he's being told, and just wants to keep on and on and on.
> You don't even answer to questions experts have asked.
> Maybe you read through the thread, and try to learn from the replies.
>
> and here's some freebie for you:
> http://www.twinlobber.org.uk/antispam/faq/
> http://members.aol.com/emailfaq/emailfaq.html
>
>
>
> Robi
>
>
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