hey david,

i uploaded 2 files:

1) the original output file of crux: B08-02057_original_crux.pepXML
2) the pepxml with the latest modifications/adaptations discussed in this
thread: B08-02057_latest_try_to_adapt.pepXML

the original file is an invalid xml. i already reported this to the
crux-mailing list with with a solution how to fix this and barbara frewen
was already so nice to write a patch for 1.3.4:
http://groups.google.com/group/crux-users/browse_thread/thread/c4df5eeba26d5671

please let me know when i can be of further help!

cheers,
andreas

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:03 AM, David Shteynberg <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> Would you mind sharing on of your crux pepXML files?  You can post it
> to our ftp site:
>
> http://tools.proteomecenter.org/wiki/index.php?title=TPP:Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_upload_files_to_the_SPC_tools_team.3F
>
>
> Thanks,
> -David
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Andreas Quandt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > hey david,
> > thanks for answering!
> > i used xinteract -dDECOY_ -OAdPlIw B08-02057_mod.pepXML to process the
> file.
> > as you suggest using a trunk version: can you refer to a specific
> revision?
> > cheers,
> > andreas
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:57 PM, David Shteynberg
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Your best bet is to try the code from trunk SVN.  Have you tried it in
> >> NONPARAM mdoe?
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Andreas Quandt
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > hey jimmy and matt,
> >> > i tried what jimmy suggested but are stuck again.... :-(
> >> > i added the 'missing' scores as jimmy suggested:
> >> >         <search_score name="deltacn" value="0.22324939" />
> >> >         <search_score name="xcorr" value="0.96492940" />
> >> >         <search_score name="deltacnstar" value="0.000"/>
> >> >         <search_score name="spscore" value="0.0000"/>
> >> >         <search_score name="sprank" value="1"/>
> >> > and get following output:
> >> > running: "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
> >> > 'interact.pep.xml' DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI
> >> > INSTRWARN"
> >> > using Accurate Mass Bins
> >> > using pI
> >> > Using no error on different instrument types.
> >> > Using Decoy Label "DECOY_".
> >> > Decoy Probabilities will be reported.
> >> > Using non-parametric distributions
> >> >  (SEQUEST) (leaving deltacn* entries)
> >> > adding Accurate Mass mixture distr
> >> > adding pI mixture distr
> >> > init with SEQUEST trypsin
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.00210.00210.4. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.00234.00234.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.00668.00668.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.01888.01888.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.01912.01912.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.01913.01913.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.02423.02423.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.02440.02440.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.02441.02441.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.03150.03150.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.03171.03171.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.04499.04499.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.04599.04599.4. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.06133.06133.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.06134.06134.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
> >> > B08-02057.07676.07676.4. This spectrum will be excluded from the
> model.
> >> > MS Instrument info: Manufacturer: NA, Model: NA, Ionization: NA,
> >> > Analyzer:
> >> > UNKNOWN, Detector: UNKNOWN
> >> >  PeptideProphet  (TPP v4.4 VUVUZELA rev 1, Build 201102011840 (linux))
> >> > AKeller@ISB
> >> >  read in 0 1+, 5 2+, 416 3+, 26 4+, 2 5+, 1 6+, and 0 7+ spectra.
> >> > Initialising statistical models ...
> >> > Found 238 Decoys, and 212 Non-Decoys
> >> > Iterations: .PeptideProphetParser:
> >> > Validation/InterProphet/InterProphetParser/KDModel.cxx:143: bool
> >> > KDModel::replaceProb(int, double): Assertion `idx < posprobs_->size()'
> >> > failed.
> >> > command "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
> >> > 'interact.pep.xml'
> >> > DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI INSTRWARN" exited
> with
> >> > non-zero exit code: 6
> >> > QUIT - the job is incomplete
> >> > the errors are coursed by negative values for the xcorr. hence i
> >> > 'turned'
> >> > them into positive values. however this only causes another error:
> >> > command completed in 1 sec
> >> > running: "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
> >> > 'interact.pep.xml' DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI
> >> > INSTRWARN"
> >> > using Accurate Mass Bins
> >> > using pI
> >> > Using no error on different instrument types.
> >> > Using Decoy Label "DECOY_".
> >> > Decoy Probabilities will be reported.
> >> > Using non-parametric distributions
> >> >  (SEQUEST) (leaving deltacn* entries)
> >> > adding Accurate Mass mixture distr
> >> > adding pI mixture distr
> >> > init with SEQUEST trypsin
> >> > command "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
> >> > 'interact.pep.xml'
> >> > DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI INSTRWARN" exited
> with
> >> > non-zero exit code: 11
> >> > QUIT - the job is incomplete
> >> >
> >> > as i do not know what these error codes mean, i am now stuck :-(
> >> > does one of you guys have a suggestion how to continue?
> >> > cheers,
> >> > andreas
> >> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Andreas Quandt
> >> > <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey Jimmy,
> >> >>
> >> >> I tried the renaming but of course not the adding of the 'missing'
> >> >> scoring values.
> >> >> I report back to you guys as soon as I have tested it :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Andreas
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Jimmy Eng <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Andreas,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I didn't say it was going to be easy! :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Here's an example Sequest pep.xml file:
> >> >> > http://proteomicsresource.washington.edu/dist/sequest.pep.xml
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As Matt suggested, the search_score names will need to change
> >> >> > ("xcorr_score" to "xcorr" and "delta_cn" to "deltacn").
> >> >> >  Additionally,
> >> >> > you'll probably want to add "deltacnstar", "spscore", and "sprank"
> >> >> > score entries.  Use 0.0, 0.0, and 1 respectively for the values for
> >> >> > these additional scores.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > - Jimmy
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Matthew Chambers
> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> Did you try renaming the score names? I expect that there is a 1:1
> >> >> >> relationship between the search engine name and the score names
> >> >> >> (correct me
> >> >> >> if I'm wrong TPP folks). If you need a program to do the "replace
> >> >> >> all"
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> can try Notepad++ or Gvim.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Matt
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 2/2/2011 10:22 AM, Andreas Quandt wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> sure :-)
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> originally the spectrum query match looks like
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.mzXML.00234.00234.3"
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> but after it did not work. i tried the B08-02057.00234.00234.3
> >> >> >>> instead:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.00234.00234.3"
> start_scan="234"
> >> >> >>> end_scan="234"
> >> >> >>> precursor_neutral_mass="1332.6912" assumed_charge="3" index="4">
> >> >> >>> <search_result>
> >> >> >>> <search_hit hit_rank="2" peptide="GAFALTLIGLLLM"
> >> >> >>> peptide_prev_aa="R"
> >> >> >>> peptide_next_aa="-"
> >> >> >>> protein="DECOY_Q8TE58" num_tot_proteins="1"
> >> >> >>> calc_neutral_pep_mass="1332.7074" massdiff="-0.0162"
> >> >> >>> num_tol_term="2" num_missed_cleavages="0"  is_rejected="0"
> >> >> >>> protein_descr="\ID=ATS15_HUMAN \MODRES=
> >> >> >>> \VARIANT=(623|N|S)(770|Q|R)(878|C|G) \NCBITAXID=9606 \DE=A
> >> >> >>> disintegrin
> >> >> >>> and
> >> >> >>> metalloproteinase with
> >> >> >>> thrombospondin motifs 15 (ADAMTS-15) (ADAM-TS 15) (ADAM-TS15)">
> >> >> >>> <search_score name="delta_cn" value="0.00000000" />
> >> >> >>> <search_score name="xcorr_score" value="-0.04533549" />
> >> >> >>> </search_hit>
> >> >> >>> </search_result>
> >> >> >>> </spectrum_query>
> >> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.00244.00244.5"
> start_scan="244"
> >> >> >>> end_scan="244"
> >> >> >>> precursor_neutral_mass="2591.2581" assumed_charge="5" index="5">
> >> >> >>> <search_result>
> >> >> >>> <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="HMLDVLLLFIAVIVALPVLAELGM"
> >> >> >>> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="-"
> >> >> >>> protein="DECOY_P10635" num_tot_proteins="1"
> >> >> >>> calc_neutral_pep_mass="2591.2922" massdiff="-0.0342"
> >> >> >>> num_tol_term="2" num_missed_cleavages="0"  is_rejected="0"
> >> >> >>> protein_descr="\ID=CP2D6_HUMAN \MODRES=
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> \VARIANT=(11|V|M)(26|R|H)(28|R|C)(34|P|S)(42|G|R)(85|A|V)(91|L|M)(94|H|R)(107|T|I)(120|F|I)(155|E|K)(169|G|R)(212|G|E)(231|L|P)(237|A|S)(281|.|)(296|R|C)(297|I|">
> >> >> >>> <search_score name="delta_cn" value="0.00000000" />
> >> >> >>> <search_score name="xcorr_score" value="0.37809423" />
> >> >> >>> </search_hit>
> >> >> >>> </search_result>
> >> >> >>> </spectrum_query>
> >> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.00246.00246.4"
> start_scan="246"
> >> >> >>> end_scan="246"
> >> >> >>> precursor_neutral_mass="2007.0232" assumed_charge="4" index="6">
> >> >> >>> <search_result>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> (to the original sequest, the difference is also that the scores
> >> >> >>> are
> >> >> >>> named: xcorr and deltacn...)
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --andreas
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matthew Chambers
> >> >> >>> <[email protected]
> >> >> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>    Can you paste a few of the spectrum_query elements? It seems
> >> >> >>> like
> >> >> >>> you
> >> >> >>> got it to process properly
> >> >> >>>    as SEQUEST, so there's something wrong further down.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>    -Matt
> >> >> >>
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