Hi Andreas,

Would you mind sharing on of your crux pepXML files?  You can post it
to our ftp site:
http://tools.proteomecenter.org/wiki/index.php?title=TPP:Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_do_I_upload_files_to_the_SPC_tools_team.3F


Thanks,
-David

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Andreas Quandt <[email protected]> wrote:
> hey david,
> thanks for answering!
> i used xinteract -dDECOY_ -OAdPlIw B08-02057_mod.pepXML to process the file.
> as you suggest using a trunk version: can you refer to a specific revision?
> cheers,
> andreas
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:57 PM, David Shteynberg
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Your best bet is to try the code from trunk SVN.  Have you tried it in
>> NONPARAM mdoe?
>>
>> -David
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Andreas Quandt
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > hey jimmy and matt,
>> > i tried what jimmy suggested but are stuck again.... :-(
>> > i added the 'missing' scores as jimmy suggested:
>> >         <search_score name="deltacn" value="0.22324939" />
>> >         <search_score name="xcorr" value="0.96492940" />
>> >         <search_score name="deltacnstar" value="0.000"/>
>> >         <search_score name="spscore" value="0.0000"/>
>> >         <search_score name="sprank" value="1"/>
>> > and get following output:
>> > running: "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
>> > 'interact.pep.xml' DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI
>> > INSTRWARN"
>> > using Accurate Mass Bins
>> > using pI
>> > Using no error on different instrument types.
>> > Using Decoy Label "DECOY_".
>> > Decoy Probabilities will be reported.
>> > Using non-parametric distributions
>> >  (SEQUEST) (leaving deltacn* entries)
>> > adding Accurate Mass mixture distr
>> > adding pI mixture distr
>> > init with SEQUEST trypsin
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.00210.00210.4. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.00234.00234.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.00668.00668.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.01888.01888.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.01912.01912.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.01913.01913.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.02423.02423.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.02440.02440.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.02441.02441.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.03150.03150.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.03171.03171.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.04499.04499.3. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.04599.04599.4. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.06133.06133.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.06134.06134.2. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > ERROR: Discriminant value computed as nan, for spectrum
>> > B08-02057.07676.07676.4. This spectrum will be excluded from the model.
>> > MS Instrument info: Manufacturer: NA, Model: NA, Ionization: NA,
>> > Analyzer:
>> > UNKNOWN, Detector: UNKNOWN
>> >  PeptideProphet  (TPP v4.4 VUVUZELA rev 1, Build 201102011840 (linux))
>> > AKeller@ISB
>> >  read in 0 1+, 5 2+, 416 3+, 26 4+, 2 5+, 1 6+, and 0 7+ spectra.
>> > Initialising statistical models ...
>> > Found 238 Decoys, and 212 Non-Decoys
>> > Iterations: .PeptideProphetParser:
>> > Validation/InterProphet/InterProphetParser/KDModel.cxx:143: bool
>> > KDModel::replaceProb(int, double): Assertion `idx < posprobs_->size()'
>> > failed.
>> > command "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
>> > 'interact.pep.xml'
>> > DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI INSTRWARN" exited with
>> > non-zero exit code: 6
>> > QUIT - the job is incomplete
>> > the errors are coursed by negative values for the xcorr. hence i
>> > 'turned'
>> > them into positive values. however this only causes another error:
>> > command completed in 1 sec
>> > running: "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
>> > 'interact.pep.xml' DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI
>> > INSTRWARN"
>> > using Accurate Mass Bins
>> > using pI
>> > Using no error on different instrument types.
>> > Using Decoy Label "DECOY_".
>> > Decoy Probabilities will be reported.
>> > Using non-parametric distributions
>> >  (SEQUEST) (leaving deltacn* entries)
>> > adding Accurate Mass mixture distr
>> > adding pI mixture distr
>> > init with SEQUEST trypsin
>> > command "/cluster/apps/tpp/4.4.1/bin/PeptideProphetParser
>> > 'interact.pep.xml'
>> > DECOY=DECOY_ ACCMASS DECOYPROBS NONPARAM LEAVE PI INSTRWARN" exited with
>> > non-zero exit code: 11
>> > QUIT - the job is incomplete
>> >
>> > as i do not know what these error codes mean, i am now stuck :-(
>> > does one of you guys have a suggestion how to continue?
>> > cheers,
>> > andreas
>> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Andreas Quandt
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Jimmy,
>> >>
>> >> I tried the renaming but of course not the adding of the 'missing'
>> >> scoring values.
>> >> I report back to you guys as soon as I have tested it :-)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Andreas
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Jimmy Eng <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Andreas,
>> >> >
>> >> > I didn't say it was going to be easy! :)
>> >> >
>> >> > Here's an example Sequest pep.xml file:
>> >> > http://proteomicsresource.washington.edu/dist/sequest.pep.xml
>> >> >
>> >> > As Matt suggested, the search_score names will need to change
>> >> > ("xcorr_score" to "xcorr" and "delta_cn" to "deltacn").
>> >> >  Additionally,
>> >> > you'll probably want to add "deltacnstar", "spscore", and "sprank"
>> >> > score entries.  Use 0.0, 0.0, and 1 respectively for the values for
>> >> > these additional scores.
>> >> >
>> >> > - Jimmy
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Matthew Chambers
>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> Did you try renaming the score names? I expect that there is a 1:1
>> >> >> relationship between the search engine name and the score names
>> >> >> (correct me
>> >> >> if I'm wrong TPP folks). If you need a program to do the "replace
>> >> >> all"
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> can try Notepad++ or Gvim.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Matt
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 2/2/2011 10:22 AM, Andreas Quandt wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> sure :-)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> originally the spectrum query match looks like
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.mzXML.00234.00234.3"
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> but after it did not work. i tried the B08-02057.00234.00234.3
>> >> >>> instead:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.00234.00234.3" start_scan="234"
>> >> >>> end_scan="234"
>> >> >>> precursor_neutral_mass="1332.6912" assumed_charge="3" index="4">
>> >> >>> <search_result>
>> >> >>> <search_hit hit_rank="2" peptide="GAFALTLIGLLLM"
>> >> >>> peptide_prev_aa="R"
>> >> >>> peptide_next_aa="-"
>> >> >>> protein="DECOY_Q8TE58" num_tot_proteins="1"
>> >> >>> calc_neutral_pep_mass="1332.7074" massdiff="-0.0162"
>> >> >>> num_tol_term="2" num_missed_cleavages="0"  is_rejected="0"
>> >> >>> protein_descr="\ID=ATS15_HUMAN \MODRES=
>> >> >>> \VARIANT=(623|N|S)(770|Q|R)(878|C|G) \NCBITAXID=9606 \DE=A
>> >> >>> disintegrin
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> metalloproteinase with
>> >> >>> thrombospondin motifs 15 (ADAMTS-15) (ADAM-TS 15) (ADAM-TS15)">
>> >> >>> <search_score name="delta_cn" value="0.00000000" />
>> >> >>> <search_score name="xcorr_score" value="-0.04533549" />
>> >> >>> </search_hit>
>> >> >>> </search_result>
>> >> >>> </spectrum_query>
>> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.00244.00244.5" start_scan="244"
>> >> >>> end_scan="244"
>> >> >>> precursor_neutral_mass="2591.2581" assumed_charge="5" index="5">
>> >> >>> <search_result>
>> >> >>> <search_hit hit_rank="1" peptide="HMLDVLLLFIAVIVALPVLAELGM"
>> >> >>> peptide_prev_aa="R" peptide_next_aa="-"
>> >> >>> protein="DECOY_P10635" num_tot_proteins="1"
>> >> >>> calc_neutral_pep_mass="2591.2922" massdiff="-0.0342"
>> >> >>> num_tol_term="2" num_missed_cleavages="0"  is_rejected="0"
>> >> >>> protein_descr="\ID=CP2D6_HUMAN \MODRES=
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> \VARIANT=(11|V|M)(26|R|H)(28|R|C)(34|P|S)(42|G|R)(85|A|V)(91|L|M)(94|H|R)(107|T|I)(120|F|I)(155|E|K)(169|G|R)(212|G|E)(231|L|P)(237|A|S)(281|.|)(296|R|C)(297|I|">
>> >> >>> <search_score name="delta_cn" value="0.00000000" />
>> >> >>> <search_score name="xcorr_score" value="0.37809423" />
>> >> >>> </search_hit>
>> >> >>> </search_result>
>> >> >>> </spectrum_query>
>> >> >>> <spectrum_query spectrum="B08-02057.00246.00246.4" start_scan="246"
>> >> >>> end_scan="246"
>> >> >>> precursor_neutral_mass="2007.0232" assumed_charge="4" index="6">
>> >> >>> <search_result>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> (to the original sequest, the difference is also that the scores
>> >> >>> are
>> >> >>> named: xcorr and deltacn...)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --andreas
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matthew Chambers
>> >> >>> <[email protected]
>> >> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>    Can you paste a few of the spectrum_query elements? It seems
>> >> >>> like
>> >> >>> you
>> >> >>> got it to process properly
>> >> >>>    as SEQUEST, so there's something wrong further down.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>    -Matt
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