Hi

Thanks for the reply,
No, there was no crash, I'll try the different with the different mass.
This iTRAQ data set had no replicates, but since then I've received a data 
set from a similar experiment, but with replicates and labelled with 
TMT6plex.
I used the TPP workflow consting of X!tandem, peptide- and protein prophet 
and Libra and everything ran smoothly
I'm looking at the quantitation.tsv file now :)

Which brings me to my next question,
There were two groups, each with three replicates.
But each replicate had a different mass tag, so group one consited of 
replicate1:TMT126  rep2:TMT127 and rep3:TMT128
group two consisted of rep1:TMT129  rep2:TMT130 and rep3:TMT131

I would like to compare the level of expression of a given protein in 
Group1 vs Group2

In the quantitation.tsv file I have 6 intensity  values per peptide.

Can I take the average intesity value of the 3 replicates for a given group 

and then normalise in a similar fashion as outlined by the Libra 
documentaion?

or normalise first and then take an average?

how should I proceed? 

Thank you in advance,
Armin 

 
On Wednesday, 5 December 2012 01:58:50 UTC+2, Luis wrote:
>
> Hello, 
> By "unable to get it to work using Libra", so you mean that you get 
> bad results?  Or does the software crash? 
> I think that you are using the iTRAQ-8 reagent kit, which carry a mass 
> of 304.205360 (see the Unimod entry for more detail); the mass you are 
> using (144.1) applies to the 4-channel version of the reagent. 
>
> You can set the "normalization channel" in Libra as the channel that 
> you want to use as a reference (i.e. assign abundance ratio of 1, 
> adjust the other channels accordingly). 
>
> Hope this helps, 
> --Luis 
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Armin <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > Hi all 
> > 
> > I’m performing the analysis of an iTRAQ data for the first time, I have 
> > files in .mzML format. The petides were labelled with two iTRAQ reagents 
> 117 
> > and 119. 
> > 
> > I am able to run the data through the pipeline (X!Tandem, peptide 
> prophet , 
> > protein prophet ) without quantitation, however I am unable to get it to 
> > work using Libra. 
> > 
> > Firstly, I’ve added these lines to the “modifications” section of the 
> tandem 
> > parameters file: 
> > 
> > <note type="input" label="residue, modification 
> > mass">144.102063@[,144.102063@K</note> 
> > 
> > <note type="input" label="residue, potential modification 
> > mass">144.102063@Y</note> 
> > 
> > Is this correct? 
> > 
> > Secondly, for the Libra condition file I selected the commonly used 
> values 
> > for an iTRAQ 8-channel and deselected the labels that are not in my 
> dataset? 
> > 
> >  this is the Libra condition file that I used: 
> > 
> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> 
> > 
> > <SUMmOnCondition> 
> > 
> >   <fragmentMasses> 
> > 
> >     <reagent mz="117.1" /> 
> > 
> >     <reagent mz="119.1" /> 
> > 
> >   </fragmentMasses> 
> > 
> >   <isotopicContributions> 
> > 
> >     <contributingMz value="1"> 
> > 
> >       <affected mz="2" correction="0" /> 
> > 
> >     </contributingMz> 
> > 
> >     <contributingMz value="2"> 
> > 
> >       <affected mz="1" correction="0.0014" /> 
> > 
> >     </contributingMz> 
> > 
> >   </isotopicContributions> 
> > 
> >   <massTolerance value="0.2" /> 
> > 
> >   <centroiding type="2" iterations="1" /> 
> > 
> >   <normalization type="-1" /> 
> > 
> >   <targetMs level="2" /> 
> > 
> >   <output type="1" /> 
> > 
> >   <quantitationFile name="quantitation.tsv" /> 
> > 
> >   <minimumThreshhold value="20" /> 
> > 
> > </SUMmOnCondition> 
> > 
> > 
> > Also, to what do I set the "Normalization channel" 
> > 
> > 
> > Any help and advice would be appreciated 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you 
> > 
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