HELLO DAVID
Yes you were right about the silver being up. Thats what I meant. Your 4 look: Orient Edges F (RUR'U') F' F (URU'R') F' Permute Corners RU' L'U R'U'L Niklas (switches two on left) Orient Corners (RUR')U(RU2R') sune (RU2R')U'(RU'R') antisune (RUR')U(RU'R'U)(RU2R') double sune (R'U2)(RUR'U')(RUR'U')(RUR'U) R the one you asked about R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 R Bruno Permute Edges R2U(RUR'U')R'U'(R'UR') R2 d (M'U2M) d L2 M2U M2U2 M2U M2 M2U M2U u2 M' E2 M' COLL is orienting and permuting corners simultaneously. On Lars petrus' site, COLL is called "Step 5+6 Index." On Gilles Roux's site, CLL is called "step 3" Some of these algs do not maintain edge orientation. Whatever you learn, I would advise using something that takes advantage of Algs that simultaneously Orient/Permute corners. Learn CLL COLL dont mess with OLL just my 2 cents Jason kovacic In [email protected], "Craig Bouchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A few things: > > > > Jason -- when you said gave me that suggestion for F2L, when you say > "iIf you have a corner pointed up, and its edge is in the U layer", > you mean that the silver side where I solved the cross is DOWN, and so > "pointed up" would mean that the silver side of the corner is facing > up (ie, opposite the silver cross)? > >>>>>Yes...he was kinda trying to explain some intuitive F2L, add me > to yahoo or MSN chbouchard777 for yahoo and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for MSN > > > > > Also; you gave me the sune, antisune, doublesune, and bruno > patterns.. i'm not familiar with what those are. I don't suppose it > will be difficult to look them up, but these are definetely ones I > should memorize? > >>>>>Umm...its a good start to a 4LLL...they would be good... > > > > > > I also don't know what COLL is. > >>>>>COLL is a term for a set of algorithms that some people use. A > more advanced method...it orients and permutes the corners in one > algorithm... > > > > > Craig -- I will definetely check out that link for the method for > F2L, b/c I don't think it would be enjoyable to memorize 41 > algorithms. Also, you said that my last step (orient edges) is > redundant. However, I think I should have been more specific. When I > said that my method is: > > > > "> -Cross > > > -Permute corners > > > -Orient corners > > > -Permute edges > > > -(Orient edges; i almost never have situations where the edges are > > in the right place but oriented wrong)" > > > > I mean, by cross, that the cross is solved on the yellow side > only.. that is, I will have yellow pieces in all 4 spots, but they > won't necessarily be the correct ones. Don't ask why, but I learned > this part of my method specifically off of a website somewhere, and it > seems to work. I have 2 algs for "solving" the cross -- how many do I > actually need, to truly solve the cross? Where can I get them? > >>>>>When you solve the cross on top, that is orienting the > edges...and there are 3 algorithms you need to learn to always do this > in 1 step...most likely you have 2 algorithms, and for the case where > all 4 edges are wrong you execute an algorithm twice... > > > > > Later you said that there are 18 algs I should learn for LL; there > are a million sites that offer huge lists of algs, but they offer so > many algs on each page that I simply don't know which ones to learn. > Where can I get these 18 so that I can commit them to memory? > >>>>>Yes, well I was wrong...its only 17...but I understand what you > mean...there are a lot of sites out there...I will compile a list of > the ones you need for the 4LLL...and send them to you... > > > > > I will try to deconstruct my algs. > >>>>>Thats good...it helps... > > > Thanks to the many people who have responded! I'm sure I'll have > many more questions later. -_- > > > > David > > No Problem...thats what we're here for right??? > > Craig > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
