Hey Joël
   
  Which letters are you using? Hmm...maybe it's better to ask which letters you 
are not using...haha
   
  Pedro

Joël van Noort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu:
  Yo Chris!

Nice that you are also trying to create words and images for a P/A/O 
method...

I now finished a list with 22 * 3 words (22 names, 22 actions and 22 
objects)!!! I am so happy with this.. I really spend a lot of time 
on it, because I wanted to have actions and objects that I can 
really make a visual image about.. And the list I have now works for 
that! I am going to train myself converting the cube into the images 
and backwards the next few days... I will let you know how I am 
doing.

- Joël.

--- In [email protected], cmhardw 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Ryan,
> 
> I think doing something like this is alright for the 3x3x3, you 
can 
> still get some really fast times, but I would hate the idea of 
also 
> using it for the 5x5x5.  Storing all that information by rote for 
> the 5x5x5 would take me twice as long as using the stories I use, 
> and the stories I use aren't even as good as P/A/O so it could be 
> even faster with a better method than what I use.
> 
> Also, after learning more about the journey method and 
> person/action/object, I think it would be considerably faster to 
use 
> this method for a 3x3x3 rather than the current rote memorization 
> techniques.  I've already laid out my journey with 24 positions (I 
> want to use it for 4x4 and 5x5 centers) and I'm working on the 
> framework for the actual persons/actions/and objects right now.
> 
> I plan on switching my memorization for all cubes to the P/A/O 
> method, especially after seeing how fast the masters of this 
method 
> can memorize things.
> 
> Also, John Louis is a 4 level method P/A/O/O or person action 
object 
> object?  The reason I ask, one of the memorisers at the US 
> competition describe one of his images as "Frank Sinatra 
> Croons "Baby one more Time" to an Obelisk" and this appears to me 
to 
> be P/A/O/O.  Since the cube orbits only have 24 pieces it seems 
that 
> a 4 level system or even a 5 level system 
> (person/adverb/action/adjective/object, for example Bob 
Artistically 
> Destroys the Red Car)
> 
> Since the cube orbits are only 24 pieces instead of 52, why don't 
we 
> make a more complicated system that fits our needs?  With a 5 
level 
> system you could memorize the edge permutation of a 4x4 or 5x5 in 
at 
> best 3 images.  That would be awesome!
> 
> Chris
> 
> --- In [email protected], Ryan Heise 
> <rheise@> wrote:
> >
> > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and 
have 
> to
> > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one 
> domain
> > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it.
> > 
> > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and 
> cards.
> > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by 
looking 
> at the
> > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory 
> associations
> > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and 
> observe
> > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our 
> brains
> > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway.
> > 
> > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) 
> constrained to
> > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single 
random 
> cube
> > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to 
solve 
> the
> > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that 
> musicians
> > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take 
> more
> > than a few seconds to memorise.
> > 
> > Ryan
> >
>







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