Hey Pedro, I am not using X, Y, T and Q...
--- In [email protected], Pedro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Joël > > Which letters are you using? Hmm...maybe it's better to ask which letters you are not using...haha > > Pedro > > Joël van Noort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Yo Chris! > > Nice that you are also trying to create words and images for a P/A/O > method... > > I now finished a list with 22 * 3 words (22 names, 22 actions and 22 > objects)!!! I am so happy with this.. I really spend a lot of time > on it, because I wanted to have actions and objects that I can > really make a visual image about.. And the list I have now works for > that! I am going to train myself converting the cube into the images > and backwards the next few days... I will let you know how I am > doing. > > - Joël. > > --- In [email protected], cmhardw > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Hey Ryan, > > > > I think doing something like this is alright for the 3x3x3, you > can > > still get some really fast times, but I would hate the idea of > also > > using it for the 5x5x5. Storing all that information by rote for > > the 5x5x5 would take me twice as long as using the stories I use, > > and the stories I use aren't even as good as P/A/O so it could be > > even faster with a better method than what I use. > > > > Also, after learning more about the journey method and > > person/action/object, I think it would be considerably faster to > use > > this method for a 3x3x3 rather than the current rote memorization > > techniques. I've already laid out my journey with 24 positions (I > > want to use it for 4x4 and 5x5 centers) and I'm working on the > > framework for the actual persons/actions/and objects right now. > > > > I plan on switching my memorization for all cubes to the P/A/O > > method, especially after seeing how fast the masters of this > method > > can memorize things. > > > > Also, John Louis is a 4 level method P/A/O/O or person action > object > > object? The reason I ask, one of the memorisers at the US > > competition describe one of his images as "Frank Sinatra > > Croons "Baby one more Time" to an Obelisk" and this appears to me > to > > be P/A/O/O. Since the cube orbits only have 24 pieces it seems > that > > a 4 level system or even a 5 level system > > (person/adverb/action/adjective/object, for example Bob > Artistically > > Destroys the Red Car) > > > > Since the cube orbits are only 24 pieces instead of 52, why don't > we > > make a more complicated system that fits our needs? With a 5 > level > > system you could memorize the edge permutation of a 4x4 or 5x5 in > at > > best 3 images. That would be awesome! > > > > Chris > > > > --- In [email protected], Ryan Heise > > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and > have > > to > > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > > domain > > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > > cards. > > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by > looking > > at the > > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > > associations > > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > > observe > > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > > brains > > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > > constrained to > > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single > random > > cube > > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to > solve > > the > > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > > musicians > > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > > more > > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
