ever heard of e-mail?  The 2 of you need to keep your
problems / opinions between the 2 of you.  I know it's
none of my business the problems people have, but this
isn't the media as to where to post your personal
grudges.  No reason on making this a pissing match on
who's company is better....and blah blah blah.

my $0.02.

I know ..."if I don't want to read it then just delete
it..." but seriously...


--- Kevin Yutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> yeah ummm thanks for the comments...I know nothing
> huh??  well im not gonna re go back into the
> bullshit of the past....its in the PAST...and to
> make a long story short....this problem is
> resolved...Unfortunately the god damn 2.5" isnt in
> stock yet.....which god only knows why it
> isnt......so this is taken care of....
> 
> And Joe....i No longer blast you..nor did I
> ever....When you threaten me.....some people just
> dont feel the need to be nice anymore.....and im
> immature....whatever you say Joe...you shook my
> hand..thats it...never even met be basically......so
> lets not go into that....I tried to avoid posting on
> this list because i knew eventually youd resurface
> with something mean to say about me.......
> 
> And I spout off not knowing anything about anything
> huh?? ...I will admit I am not the guru in the
> performance parts world but damnit I try the fucking
> best I can...
> 
> And i WAS NOT blasting the customer was I....he
> called me today....and we talked about it..and like
> I said it will be resolved...Im done....flame me
> alll you want if you must...I really dont
> care....and Joe....I have nothing against
> you....Hell I even tell people to go to you
> again....when you work for the company you accuse of
> something you sorta would get pissed wouldnt ya?? 
> yeah well im done..later..
> 
> 
> Kevin Yutz
> Distributor for Xtremeracingconcepts.com in
> Pennsylvania and New Jersey
> http://www.xtremeracingconcepts.com
> Mid Atlantic Regional Director-ECSP
> http://ecsp.saturnperformance.com
> Member- SPOC, SPOC of PA
> 98 SL2 & 02 SC2
> 
> Sponsored By Hotshot Performance and Twistec
> Performance Products
> http://www.hotshot.com
> http://www.twistecproducts.com
> 484-239-3205
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: 6th planet used parts 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:02 AM
>   Subject: Re: [SPOC] XRC problems, please respone
> ASAP
> 
> 
>   well said Scott, I have promised mike and ob to
> give them a second chance myself so I will refrain
> from comments,. Jeremy, we go way back and I hope
> none of what has been said recently affects our
> relationship, Mr. yutz, who used to write me DAILY
> asking for either free advice or just simply
> bothering me when I was working was not mature
> enough to see my side at all, knowing nothing about
> business he merely jumped to the side he felt most
> comfortable with and it was comments like what Kevin
> made to me, about me ,etc that dragged my "war" with
> xrc on  longer then anticipated, even ob was man
> enough to admit he made some mistakes, Kevin on the
> other hand just spouts off without knowing anything
> about anything, bad move in business, this man has a
> legit complaint/question.
>   so, with respect to xrc and having said my peace
> about Kevin I will comment on what I know, something
> advertised as 2.5 exhaust is SUPPOSED to be 2.5, not
> 2 and 1/4, not 2 and 3/8 but 2 and a 1/2, simple.
>   Kevin, im taking this opportunity to tell you flat
> out, you are immature, I had NEVER hurt you and you
> talked to me daily, yet instead of trying to truly
> help you blasted me and still do behind my back
> every chance you get, adding fuel to the fire does
> not resolve anything.
>   innovative advertising means NOTHING if you cant
> get the product to market, I now have someone in
> Texas who's only 20 years old and has an actual body
> kit complete and on there car, its  not that hard,
> and its certainly not that hard with all the support
> that was given them , money and deposit wise that
> is.
>   its nice to see the supporters rally around, I
> would expect no less from my friends, but when
> story's like this hit you don't blast the
> customer,especially if your one of the contacts for
> the company itself, Jeremy, please, refrain from
> getting mad at me, im  giving you advice here and if
> you truly want to help the situation respond to the
> customers problem.
>   now, as the customer said, lets NOT turn this into
> a flame war, if the product is not 2.5 inch and
> that's what was sold he needs to get a 2.5 inch or a
> refund, Mr. yutz, if you can help, by all means do
> so, but help means being able to get him the proper
> exhaust or refund.
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Scott W. Thomas 
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>     Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:30 AM
>     Subject: RE: [SPOC] XRC problems, please respone
> ASAP
> 
> 
>     Jeremy,
> 
>      
> 
>     I think you need to look a little deeper into
> XRC before you make the statements that you have.
> There has been much published about what is going on
> with XRC and the problems that they are having.
> 
>      
> 
>     Personally, I would be cautious about doing any
> business with XRC.
> 
>      
> 
>     Scott W. Thomas
> 
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>      
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Jeremy Guzman
>     Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:52 AM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Subject: Re: [SPOC] XRC problems, please respone
> ASAP
> 
>      
> 
>     The Guys at XRC are creating NEW, INOVATIVE
> PRODUCTS that SPS could not FATHAM!  Whien is the
> last time SPS or saturn motorsports designed a new
> useful product?  XRC is designing body kits and all
> sorts of stuff.  But hey, if you guys dont want to
> support the ONLY company out there that is busting
> their asses left and right, and not caring about the
> profit, then SPS is where you should go.
> 
>     Jeremy Guzman
>     Distributor for XRC - NC
>     http://www.xtremeracingconcepts.com
>     Co-founder, ECSP
>     http://ecsp.saturnperformance.com
>     96 SL2
>     -HotShot Ceramic Intake
>     -K&N Cone Filter
>     -K&N Crank Case Breather
>     -Dynomax ST Muffler
>     -Nology Hotwires
>     -Beru Silverstone Plugs
>     -SRC 55mm Throttle Body
>     -SRC 2" lowering springs
>     -2 10" MTX Thunder 4104's
>     -MTX 2120 Amp
>     -Strobe Lights (front)
>     -Neon Tube over subs
>     -Custom Painted Interior
>     -Custom Fabricated Switch Panel
>     -Custom Guage Holder in Fabrication
>     -Custom Radar Detector Mount in Fabrication
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
>       Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:32 AM
> 
>       Subject: [SPOC] XRC problems, please respone
> ASAP
> 
>        
> 
>       This is not a flame, merely exactly what
> happened in my specific case.  Please, write back. 
> I was supposed to have my car ready for my show this
> weekend, so I ordered in march.  Ok, here're the
> details: 
> 
>       I ordered my XRC throttle body late march
> (either 2 or 3 weeks before the April 6th show) and
> got 
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