On Apr 11, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Yakov Rekhter wrote:
> Stefano,
> 
>> Hi Yakov,
>> 
>> thanks for your comments. See below.
> 
> in-line below...
> 
> [clipped...]
> 
>>>                                                    To reach the
>>>      same scale, an operator would need to introduce additional
>>>      complexity, such as mechanisms described in
>>>      [I-D.ietf-mpls-seamless-mpls]
>>> 
>>> Perhaps before claiming "additional complexity" in 
>>> [I-D.ietf-mpls-seamless-mpls] the authors of the draft should
>>> count the number of times the word "simple" or "simplicity"
>>> occurs in [I-D.ietf-mpls-seamless-mpls] (which btw has one
>>> of its authors the same as one of the authors of 
>>> draft-martin-spring-segment-routing-ipv6-use-cases).
>> 
>> a co-author on both drafts is a good thing as it demonstrate 
>> we have different solutions for different (dataplanes) use cases 
>> and this doesn't mean one prevails over the other.
>> 
>> I don't find anything wrong with this.
> 
> The above still does not explain what exactly are the mechanisms that
> "introduce additional complexity" in [I-D.ietf-mpls-seamless-mpls],
> and how SPRING is going to make the overall solution simpler than
> [I-D.ietf-mpls-seamless-mpls].
> 

> Moreover, if all you want is to "demonstrate we have different
> solutions for different (dataplanes) use cases, and this doesn't
> mean one prevails over the other", then the discussion about
> the "additional complexity" is clearly outside the scope of
> the use cases document.


the authors want to demonstrate how TE is deployed today and what 
SR must support and address with the removal of intermediate state 
maintenance (i.e.: simplification), other than the usual igp state.

s.




> 
> Yakov.
> 

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