Rakesh, authors,

I have not been thinking about this too much. But if you look at fig 2
of draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment, and you need a GACh between
A and D, I'd say that the GAL will be at the bottom of stack.

What if you need the CACh for the sub-path B to C, where will the GAL
go?

/Loa



On 2019-02-23 09:25, Rakesh Gandhi wrote:
Hi Greg,

I am not sure if the question has been answered. I would think GAL is at the bottom of the label stack.

Thanks,
Rakesh


On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:24 PM Greg Mirsky <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Weiqiang Cheng,
    thank you for your expedient response to my questions. The document
    states that one of the use cases for the Path segment is to be used
    as a performance, packet loss and/or delay, measurement session
    identifier. I think that RFC 6374 is the most suitable for PM OAM in
    SR-MPLS environment. Of course, the type of the encapsulated message
    can be identified using the destination UDP port number with IP/UDP
    encapsulation. But another option is to use G-ACh encapsulation.
    That would require the use of GAL. And that is how I've arrived at
    my original question (I should have explained it better, my apologies):

        How the Path segment and GAL are placed relative to each other
        in the SR-MPLS label stack?

    Regards,
    Greg

    On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:40 PM Weiqiang Cheng
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hi Greg,____

        Thanks a lot for your comments.____

        My comments are in-line.____

        __ __

        B.R.____

        Weiqiang Cheng____

        __ __

        *发件人:*Greg Mirsky [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>]
        *发送时间:*2019年2月15日3:37
        *收件人:*Alexander Vainshtein
        *抄送:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; Stewart Bryant;
        [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>;
        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; Loa Andersson
        *主题:*Re: [spring] to progress
        draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment____

        __ __

        Dear All,____

        I concur with all what has been said in support of the adoption
        of this draft by SPRING WG. The document is well-written,
        addresses the real problem in SR-MPLS, and the proposed solution
        is technically viable.____

        My comments and questions are entirely for further discussion:____

          * would the draft be expanded to demonstrate how "the Path
            Segment may be used to identify an SR-MPLS Policy, its
            Candidate-Path (CP) or a SID List (SL)"?____

        [Weiqiang] Yes, It is necessary and we will add some text to
        demonstrate this in the future version. ____

          * as many use cases for the Path Segment are related to OAM
            operations, it would be helpful to expand on the use of GAL
            and the Path Segment.____

        [Weiqiang] It is always helpful to have more use cases. However,
        The GAL is used today in MPLS-TP LSPs to flag the G-Ach and is
        used for OAM packets only while the Path segment is used for
        data packets for the each traffic flow. It is a little bit
        different. ____

        Regards,____

        Greg____

        __ __

        On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 1:12 AM Alexander Vainshtein
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:____

            +1.____

            ____

            I have been following this draft from its -00 revision. The
            current revision has resolved most of the issues I (and
            others) have been raised (e.g., elimination of excessive
            options).____

            ____

             From my POV, in its current state the draft meets two basic
            requirements for the WG adoption:____

            1.It addresses a real and relevant problem, namely the MPLS
            Flow Identification problem discussed in general in RFC 8372
            <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8372> and scoped to SR-MPLS
            LSPs in this draft. Specifics of SR-MPLS include the need to
            provide end-to-end liveness check that is one of the
            requirements explicitly specified in Section 2 of RFC 8355
            <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8355>. ____

            2.It provides a reasonable (from my POV) approach to
              solution of this problem.____

            ____

            I also concur with Stewart’s comment about strong similarity
            between the approach taken in this draft for SR-MPLS and
            generic work in progress on synonymous flow labels
            <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-sfl-framework-04>
            that has been already adopted as a MPLS WG item.  To me this
            is yet another indication that the draft should be adopted.____

            ____

            My 2c,____

            Sasha____

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            -----Original Message-----
            From: spring <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant
            Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:48 PM
            To: Loa Andersson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>;
            [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>;
            [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            Subject: Re: [spring] to progress
            draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment____

            ____

            I have just read the draft and agree that it should be
            adopted by the WG. It solves an important problem in
            instrumenting and protecting an SR path.____

            ____

            It should be noted that we needed to do something very
            similar in mainstream MPLS via the synonymous label work
            which is already adopted. ____

            However SL did not address the SR case.. We therefore need
            this path label work to be progressed.____

            ____

            - Stewart____

            ____

            On 10/02/2019 08:11, Loa Andersson wrote:____

            > Working Group,____

            > ____

            > I have reviewed draft-cheng-spring-mpls-path-segment and as far 
as I ____

            > can see, it is ready for wg adoption.____

            > ____

            > There were some comments in Bangkok, but due to the many 
collisions ____

            > between working groups at that meeting I couldn't attend the 
SPRING ____

            > f2f.____

            > ____

            > The minutes are not clear, but as far as I understand, there is 
____

            > nothing that can't be resolved in the wg process.____

            > ____

            > /Loa____

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