I don't have ASME A17.1 in front of me but see the 13: A.8.15.5.1
(07 edition) A.8.14.5.1 (02 ed)
Roland
On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Greg McGahan wrote:
Roland, this is the first I have heard of this one.
Thanks,
Greg
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland
Huggins
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: hydraulic elevators
The shunt trip hoopla is not required for the sprinkler in the pit.
Roland
On Jan 8, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Greg McGahan wrote:
George,
The AHJ's are the problem!! They say "we want what code says" but
they are
allowing other contractors to get away with it because the AHJ's do
not know
what they are doing!
Here is the flip side of doing things right; if the AHJ is allowing
other
contractors to get away with this type of stuff then we end up
looking bad
to the GC's when we scream foul on their jobs when the electrical
contractor
hits them with the shunt trip change order and the GC did not have
to do
provide on previous jobs due to non-compliant contractors.
And BTW, we are not infallible and have our own shortcomings as
well so I am
not trying to be "holier than thou" so to speak, but I appreciate
the kind
comments.
Greg
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
George Church
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: hydraulic elevators
Perhaps everyone else in the area installs to #13R ?
Perhaps a call to the local AHJ(s) would clear up whether you're
the only
one doing it correctly, in which case maybe your competitors will
be a
little dismayed to find themselves going back and retrofitting their
bottoms. The call to the AHJ(s) could be two-fold: ask them if they
believe
it should be required; and ask WHY it is not- you may find in the
near
future you're no longer alone in the shaft.
George Church
Rowe Sprinkler
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David de
Vries/Firetech
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: hydraulic elevators
Pat on the back to the only contractor in the area complying with
this
provision of 13.
--
David de Vries, P.E., CSP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Greg McGahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
We are receiving mixed reviews from AHJ's regarding this issue: Are
sprinklers required in the bottom of hydraulic elevator shafts?
I know what the code says but we have never been able to document
that ANY
hydraulic elev fluid is non-combustible by definition. I was
informed this
morning that we are the only contractor in the area putting
sprinklers in
the bottom of these shafts.
Thanks,
Greg McGahan
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