Allan,
If you have a copy of the 2007 flavor of NFPA 13, look at the new section
11.1.5.2 (3).  As long as the higher hazard areas are enclosed & no greater
than 400 sf and separated from other higher hazard areas, you're allowed to
use the duration and hose allowance for the lower hazard.  Nice addition.

Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO


>Forum,
>
>I think variations of this topic have been mentioned before but I
>must apologize for not paying attention. This is about tank sizing.
>
>There is an example in the 13 appendix for determining the design
>area when the higher hazard type is in a room with walls good for at
>least the water duration for the higher hazard type. For that
>condition the design area for the lower hazard type is used to
>encompass both spaces. The appropriate application density for the
>larger hazard is used for the larger hazard area and appropriate
>application density for the lesser hazard is used for the balance of
>the total design area in the lower hazard space that is outside the
>walls of the higher hazard space. Now you have probably guessed where
>this question is going. Since the total Design Area to be used is
>that of the lesser hazard, does that also mean the Design Duration
>for the lesser hazard applies to both hazard areas? The question
>seems silly here but there is a glimmer of possibility in the
>language used in the NFPA 13. This would mean 30 minutes for each
>space application where the hazards are LH and OH2. My own thinking
>would be 60 minutes for the OH2 portion and 30 minutes for the LH
>portion when the required durations are 60 and 30. When space and
>budget are tight the difference is significant when it boils down to
>13 according to Hoyle versus opinion and there is this BlueBird sized
>shape parked somewhere in the building.
>
>Thanks,
>Allan Seidel
>St. Louis, MO


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