Brian, I'm not sure where you get your info on this but NFPA 13 (02) 8.14.5.1 requires heads in the pit unless that pit meets the requirements of 8.14.5.2.
As Chuck mentioned, nearly all of the hydraulic fluids used for non-cable operated elevators is combustible. You have to put them in to meet NFPA 13. What the GC does after that is his business but if he wants you to take it out, make sure you get written direction to do it and keep it in your files along with your letter of objection. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Elevator Inspectors vs. Piping Installation per NFPA Chuck, It's 80 and sunny here in North Carolina...... Unless otherwise directed by the AHJ the rule of thumb is no sprinklers required in the pit, only in the machine room for hydraulic type elevators. Regards, Brian Harris First Defense Fire Protection Design Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 704.948.3506 phone 704.948.3507 fax -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haugen, Charles Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:07 PM To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Elevator Inspectors vs. Piping Installation per NFPA It's snowing again in Fargo! I know this has been asked before... I apologize. I have looked through NFPA 13, '99, '02, and '07 editions regarding protection in the pit... I've been on the phones w/ A.H.J.'s regarding their takes on protection... and the war that's waged w/ the Elevator inspector NOT wanting anything in the pit OR the elev. mech. room. When asking the elevator installers regarding if they're using 'noncombustible hydraulic fluids' we get the deer in the headlights look followed by a "...does that even exist?" comment. There has been a time or two where we have been instructed by the Elev. Inspector to remove all piping in these areas after the Fire Inspector has been through. What to do? I recall that there were talks about this during the NFPA meeting?? Correct? Chuck _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
