Understand.  We have already been down that road with him, bottom line,
he wants the head.  If you read the definitions for bathroom and
compartment in NFPA 13, you will see that it is very clear that they are
separate rooms.  We were not able to get him to accept it even when we
showed him what was in black and white.
Good luck,

Dale F. Wingard, CET
Senior Designer
Triple "A" Fire Protection, Inc.
251.649.2034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
McGahan
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: bathrooms in 13 residential

I am talking to Orange Beach. However, I want to know the TRUTH
regardless of what TP requires. He is hung up on the "required level of
protection"
statement. Where do we define this level?

If it is an AHJ call then I understand. If it is written then we have a
discussion point.
Greg

Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale
Wingard
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: bathrooms in 13 residential

Greg,

A compartment only requires a minimum of 8" lintel, it can have a cased
opening.
However, if you are talking about Orange Beach, then you will have to
add the head.


Dale F. Wingard, CET
Triple "A" Fire Protection, Inc.
251.649.2034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
McGahan
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: bathrooms in 13 residential



NFPA #13 2007 edition

A.3.3.2 Bathroom. A room is still considered a bathroom if it contains
just a toilet. Additionally, two bathrooms can be adjacent to each other
and are considered separate rooms, provided they are enclosed with the
required level of construction.

I have an AHJ that is stating that this excerpt from NFPA #13 is
requiring a toilet room to have 20 minute walls to be considered a
separate room with a UL listed door.

Has anyone researched this? Is this the intent in 13?

Thanks,
Greg

Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852



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