It IS black and white. That's what I meant by the drain requirement trumping the grid restriction.

Roland

On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Todd Williams - work wrote:

Am I missing something here? 8.15.2.5.3.4 states: 'Tie-in drains SHALL be provided for multiple adjacent trapped branch lines.....'. Shall is just a grammatically correct way of saying y'gotta. If you have the multiple adjacent trapped branch lines, they have to be connected with a tie-in drain. Section 14.4.4.5 says not to include them in hydraulic calculations. To me, that's a pretty open and shut deal. Does it create a gridded dry system, technically yes, but to me, this section says that this arrangement is allowed. Keep in mind that the cross sectional area of 1" pipe is roughly 1/4 of the CSA of 2" and 1/16th of 4". That creates a very different scenario than say 4" and 3" where the ratio is 9/16. It would be interesting to check trip times of a system with the tie-in drains attached and one where they are plugged off.

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