Hello Keith,

A quick phone call to NFPA with a follow up email might be the best way to
get a quick answer.

Thursday, March 20, 2008, 12:45:27 PM, you wrote:

> Thanks Thom, but I need to know if someone on this board can confirm if D
> and E are outside the scope of 13. I am working closely with an engineer and
> need to make sure it can be designed with NFPA 13. I attended a recent
> seminar about seismic and was told that it is outside 13 standards. Can
> someone confirm? If so what guidelines do you use?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:41 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Seismic D

> I don't believe that D is outside the scope of 13, I'm not sure of E. We 
> currently have a project with a D category and an Ss of .70 this yields a Cp

> of 0.43, (see Table 9.3.5.6.2) which is less than the Cp if the AHJ  doesn't

> specify the seismic load. This will actually provide less of a design 
> requirement for the bracing loads than is required when 9.3.5.6.3 is used.
> Thom McMahon
> Firetech, Inc.
> 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
> Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
> Tel: 970-879-7952
> Fax: 970-879-7926
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Keith Pepin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Seismic D


>> It was my understanding that D and E are outside the scope of 13???
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Thom McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:40:48
>> To:<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Seismic D
>>
>>
>> The requirements of NFPA 13, 2007 should provide what you need. Also most
>> seismic programs like TOLCO use the S1 and Ss to calc loads, the first 
>> sheet
>> of your structural drawings usually has this information.
>> Thom McMahon
>> Firetech, Inc.
>> 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
>> Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
>> Tel: 970-879-7952
>> Fax: 970-879-7926
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Keith Pepin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Seismic D
>>
>>
>>> Is there any document that provides guidance for designing seismic 
>>> bracing
>>> in a building of cat D?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Keith Pepin
>>> Design manager
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