You use the orifice size of the sprinklers that you are testing.  You install 
full port ball valve in a drain pipe from each of the sprinklers you are 
testing with the correct orifice. If you contact Cobb County, GA you can get 
their procedures if you are interested.

Michael L. Brown
Manager of Technical Services
The Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Company, Inc.'
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(864) 843-5228


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IPA
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:47 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: What is a Bucket Test?

What kind of variance in calcs from actual bucket test results are
considered acceptable? I'm just curious since taking out the head and
flowing straight from a 1/2" threaded outlet vs. flowing a 7/16" orifice
(like a 4.2k sprinkler w/ element removed) could possibly work in your favor
to a small degree but could also work against you depending on what k-factor
of sprinkler you used.


In a 13R bucket test do you actually remove more than one sprinkler and flow
up to four? Or is it always just one? Seems like a source calc w/ one
sprinkler flowing would make more sense if you're only required to bucket
test one sprinkler...

-B-




On 4/9/08, Todd Williams - FPDC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you have a really bad water supply, instead of a pitot you use a
> 5-gallon bucket and a stop watch. 8-)
>
>
> At 02:19 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote:
>
> > This is the first time I've heard it being done for 13R. 13D, yes. But
> > not
> > 13R. Are there other jurisdictions requiring a bucket test for 13R?
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian
> > Harris
> > Sent: April 9, 2008 12:01 PM
> > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
> > Subject: RE: What is a Bucket Test?
> >
> > A bucket test / barrel test is when you remove a head(s) in the remote
> > area
> > and fill up a bucket/barrel to see if it is flowing the gpm the is
> > called
> > for in the calc's. In our case with the density and heads we are using
> > that
> > would be 20 gpm, we are getting around 15 gpm.
> >
> >
> > Brian Harris
> > FDFP INC.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:50 PM
> > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
> > Subject: What is a Bucket Test?
> >
> > Perhaps a dumb question, but what is a bucket test and is it conducted
> > the
> > same way in every jurisdiction?
> >
> > Bill Brooks
> >
> > William N. Brooks, P.E.
> > Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc.
> > 372 Wilett Drive
> > Severna Park, MD 21146
> > 410-544-3620 Phone
> > 410-544-3032 FAX
> > 412-400-6528 Cell
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Failed Bucket Test
> > From: "Brian Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, April 07, 2008 2:30 pm
> > To: <sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org>
> >
> > Fellow forum people:
> > I have a situation where we have designed and installed a 13R system, it
> > is
> > completely finished and wham-o we fail the bucket test! Our system was
> > designed based on the flow test provided by the city fire dept., turns
> > out
> > that a test taken now with the failed test shows a 25% drop in static &
> > residual pressures, hence the failed test. Of course the owner is
> > looking to
> > us to pull a magic rabbit out of our #$% , err I mean hat, we have tried
> > a
> > few different things but with that big of a pressure loss there's really
> > not
> > much we can do. I don't feel it's our liability at this point since we
> > went
> > off the city's water flow test and per the calc's we were good, any
> > thoughts?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
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