The Tyco tests very conspicuously did not, nor does the listing include
doors or moving casement windows.   Fixed glass only, no horizontal
mullions or bumps.   The obvious being that the intent is to cool the
glass and maintain separation, not water an opening in hopes of keeping
fire and combustion byproduct from breaching it.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA


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Can glass door be protected by a window sprinkler?

Ron Fletcher

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???  Actually, the only ways that I'm aware of are to use rated glass -
VERY expensive - or window sprinklers.   If you don't protect them,
there's a limit to the maximum percentage of rated wall area that can be
glazed openings, depending on whether it's one or two hours.  Otherwise,
to make an all-glass wall you would have to use sprinklers or rated
glass block or glazing.

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA


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Well if it's not mandatory could someone provide the code reference to
another solution for a RATED GLASS WALL?  We know how to do unrated and
know
how to do non-glass.  

Chris 

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That's correct, not mandatory but an excellent and tested item.

So as long as you can prove that your sprinkler protection of the
glazing
provides a fire resistant rating equal to that of the wall, you're good
to
go.




Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
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"listed"
Craig L. Prahl, CET

"listed" appears to be the key word here.
I just received a phone call from a representative of Tyco and in
essence
this sprinkler is better technology and is an option and not mandatory.

Thank everyone for your response to my post. As usual they are a great
help.


Russell Rewis
Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc.
107C Hemlock Street
Valdosta, Georgia 31601
229-244-8130
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