As a friend of my keeps telling people, "The Code is always 100% clear in
its intention and meaning,---Until the second person reads it."

I really believe that while the codes and standards we use are the minimum,
what we really are seeking is a "Comfort level" at which we have done a
reasonable amount to reduce the hazard while admitting that we could do more
at some additional cost. That comfort level must be felt by all share
holders. The Owner, Design team, AHJ, Insurance company and the contractor.
Sounding them out before making an assumption of what they think is good
enough, before design usually saves many wasted steps.

How much stored water for a secondary source, will always have a different
set of guide lines for every share holder than what the only source might
have.
As I ended the last post on this, Ask the AHJ and insurance underwriter what
they require. (Their requirements may be different than yours or the codes.)


Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


Thom,

I checked IBC after posting. It says the tank is to be sized for 30 minutes
of the "hydraulically calculated sprinkler demand, including the hose stream
allowance". There is no mention of standpipe demand.  
I might be wrong, but I have never seen "hose stream allowance" used in
context of anything but sprinkler calculations. Is it? Please let me know.
Could it be that the code writers know that a hose stream allowance is part
of a sprinkler demand calculation and that it might be confusing if they did
not flat out say standpipe demand if that is what they really meant? I think
that is a fair assumption, of course sometimes it seems like the code
committees conspire together over drinks and with rousing laughter to,
"make'm scratch their heads for hours over this one."

Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO


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