In Washington a fire sprinkler contractor can put in the backflow for the sprinkler if it's outside the building perimeter. If inside it has to be a plumber. My favorite part is that the sprinkie can put in the UG to the flange and the piping after the backflow but the plumber has to be called in for the backflow and any transition pieces of potable pipe that may be required between the entry flange and the backflow device. The rationale is always explained to be due to technical expertise of the various trades but this is obviously political issue of authority related to possession of a piece of work. You can ask the head of the state board of plumbers if he thinks that sprinkler guys are unqualified to put in this item face to face and he'll answer yes. I don't think he's that stupid. I do think he understands politics.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Craig Leadbetter <[email protected]> wrote: > We have a local area that will not allow fire sprinkler contractors to > test, > service or install backflows on fire sprinkler systems (even on the > anti-freeze loops). > > > This is the way it is in the entire state of Michigan. Sprinkler > contractor cannot even help the plumber install the backflow. > > Craig Leadbetter > Safeguard of Marquette > (P)906-475-9955 Ext 101 > (F) 906-475-5474 > (C) 906-362-5393 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Fire marshall > > The State Marshal may not have the statutory power to do anything. > In Ohio, they cannot override the local AHJ. In fact, the local AHJ > could > tell the State Fire Marshal to.....well, you get the idea. > We have a local area that will not allow fire sprinkler contractors to > test, > service or install backflows on fire sprinkler systems (even on the > anti-freeze loops). A plumber must be used! > We have another AHJ that told me we must have a licensed fire alarm > company > on-site to push the alarm silence button when we do the annual > inspection! > When I called the State, he told me their office has no power except in > > motels and state buildings. > Of course, the law is the law and a court can force anyone to adhere to > it. > > > Forest Wilson > > Project Manager > Cherokee Fire Protection Co. > 3195 Dayton Xenia Rd Ste 900 > Dayton OH 45434 > > ph: 937-376-2333 > fx: 614-455-4324 > cell: 937-307-5647 > > Visit our blog: _www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com_ > (http://www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com/) > > > FIRE SPRINKLERS SAVE LIVES!! > > > > NOTICE: The information contained in this email is intended to be > solely for > the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and > may > contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. 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I have > even > had a discussion with one (where i showed him in 13 where the book said > > differently from what he thought it said) where he said "too bad for you > im the > highest level there is do it my way." When a fellow tech called an AHJ > and > informed him of a customers system the AHJ said i dont care about that > stuff. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Roland Huggins <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:08:19 AM > Subject: Re: Fire marshall > > Also worth noting that just because a state fire marshal exists does > not > mean that they resolve differences in interpretation between local > AHJ's or act > as a higher authority over-ruling a local AHJ's interpretation. > > Roland > > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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