Allan, To the contrary the contractor had no objection and was also the sprinkler designer. As for variances (variations in NJ) their purpose is to allow alternates that provide the same level of performance as that prescribed by the code, i.e. the compartment must still be provided with fire suppression. It's important to keep that in mind as a variation is not an acceptable mechanism to reduce that required by the building code. This is especially important in buildings where credits and reductions have been taken for fire sprinklers conforming to that which the building code prescribes.
Sincerely John Drucker Red Bank, NJ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of AKS-Gmail-IMAP Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Indoor Squash court Sooner or later this squash court is going to be an a-wash court. I would bet the contractor installed the sprinkler under protest and added squash balls to his not responsible for no heat clause. If that sprinkler has to stay then a cage needs to be fitted for it and house scoring rules need to be created for when the ball hits it. There are reasons why you wear eye protection in this game where part of the play is to whack the ball as hard as you possibly can with a 30 inch long energy rebounding device. I think institutional sprinklers put the fusible link right out in front. It is not even behind a deflector. My limited experience with squash courts was to ask for a variance. That was not for a residence where the room might be more likely used for other purposes. Allan Seidel St. Louis, MO On Mar 4, 2009, at 5:47 AM, John Drucker wrote: > Tim, > > A squash court was just completed in our jurisdiction. Institutional > QR > Sidewall Sprinklers were utilized for aesthetic and resistance to > damage. > The manufacturer was Viking. > > John Drucker > Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ) > Red Bank, NJ > > ----------------------------- > > Has anyone dealt with sprinklers in a squash court in some fashion or > architecturally pleasing design? > > > > Thanks > > Tim Killey > > Fire Busters Inc > > 7887 114 A St., Delta, BC > > V4C 5L8 > > Phone 604.599.4499 > > Fax 604.599.4319 > > www.firebusters.com > > email: [email protected] > > > > > > > > NOTICE: The information in this email is for the intended recipient > only. > Information is personal and confidential, and shall not be shared with > anyone other than the recipients of this email. If you receive this > email > in error, please contact the writer immediately. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dale > Wingard > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: small closets NFPA 13 > > > > Travis, > > > > I would agree. I see where everything under section 21.20 is > bringing in > > the language from the Life Safety Code. > > > > Cliff, > > > > I know that you were asking about 13R closets the other day; > apparently > > 101 was what we were thinking about when we wanted to add sprinklers > > when it included the water heaters. > > > > > > Dale F. Wingard, SET > > Design Manager > > Triple "A" Fire Protection, Inc. > > 251.649.2034 > > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis > > Mack, SET > > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:26 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: small closets NFPA 13 > > > > Per NFPA 13, 2007: > > > > 21.20.19.2 Installation Requirements. > > 21.20.19.2.1 In buildings sprinklered in accordance with NFPA 13, > > closets > > less than 12 ft2 (1.1 m2) in area in individual dwelling units shall > not > > be > > required to be sprinklered. Closets that contain equipment such as > > washers, > > dryers, furnaces, or water heaters shall be sprinklered regardless of > > size. > > [101:30.3.5.4] > > > > Previously, in areas where I have done work that did not recognize the > > Life > > Safety Code, we could not use this wording to eliminate sprinklers in > > small > > closets in apartment buildings. Basically, NFPA 13 said it could only > > be > > eliminated in hotels / motels: > > > > 8.15.8.2* Closets and Pantries. Sprinklers are not required in clothes > > closets, linen closets, and pantries within dwelling units in hotels > and > > motels where the area of the space does not exceed 24 ft2 (2.2 m2), > the > > least dimension does not exceed 3 ft (0.9 m), and the walls and > ceilings > > are > > surfaced with noncombustible or limited-combustible materials. > > > > So, even if the LSC is not recognized in an area, can you still take > the > > exception noted above in Chap 21 and eliminate sprinklers in small > > closets > > since it is now part of the body of NFPA 13? > > > > Please feel free to call if you have any questions or comments. > > > > Travis Mack, SET > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: > > [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > > to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.6/1981 - Release Date: > 03/03/09 > 16:09:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
