Check out the new Tyco RAVEN sprinkler. Upsides: VERY durable and a locking escutcheon. Designed specifically to withstand efforts to pick it apart, including blunt force. Downside: $24 each street pricing.
Steve Leyton Protection Design & Consulting San Diego, CA -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:24 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Indoor Squash court While "Institutional Sprinklers" may sound like the best option, I'd suggest you read the literature closely. These heads are "Tamper Resistant" not impact resistant. Because the element/cover forms the smooth rounded center of the head, this exposes it to the impact of the ball. You may want to take a few of these, mount them on a sheet of plywood and hit some squash balls at them. Better yet, hook up a garden hose to them so if they start to leak you'll know it. Institutional heads are designed to inhibit the dismantling of their assemblies by inmates, for use as "weapons" or other purposes. One of the original requirements was to prevent a inmate from being able to hang themselves from the heads, either by having the element concealed as the raven has or breakaway at a specific load. Thom McMahon, SET Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr P.O. Box 882136 Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:48 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Indoor Squash court Tim, A squash court was just completed in our jurisdiction. Institutional QR Sidewall Sprinklers were utilized for aesthetic and resistance to damage. The manufacturer was Viking. John Drucker Fire Protection Subcode Official (AHJ) Red Bank, NJ ----------------------------- Has anyone dealt with sprinklers in a squash court in some fashion or architecturally pleasing design? Thanks Tim Killey Fire Busters Inc 7887 114 A St., Delta, BC V4C 5L8 Phone 604.599.4499 Fax 604.599.4319 www.firebusters.com email: tkil...@firebusters.com NOTICE: The information in this email is for the intended recipient only. Information is personal and confidential, and shall not be shared with anyone other than the recipients of this email. If you receive this email in error, please contact the writer immediately. -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Dale Wingard Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:54 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: small closets NFPA 13 Travis, I would agree. I see where everything under section 21.20 is bringing in the language from the Life Safety Code. Cliff, I know that you were asking about 13R closets the other day; apparently 101 was what we were thinking about when we wanted to add sprinklers when it included the water heaters. Dale F. Wingard, SET Design Manager Triple "A" Fire Protection, Inc. 251.649.2034 da...@aaafp.com -----Original Message----- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:26 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: small closets NFPA 13 Per NFPA 13, 2007: 21.20.19.2 Installation Requirements. 21.20.19.2.1 In buildings sprinklered in accordance with NFPA 13, closets less than 12 ft2 (1.1 m2) in area in individual dwelling units shall not be required to be sprinklered. Closets that contain equipment such as washers, dryers, furnaces, or water heaters shall be sprinklered regardless of size. [101:30.3.5.4] Previously, in areas where I have done work that did not recognize the Life Safety Code, we could not use this wording to eliminate sprinklers in small closets in apartment buildings. Basically, NFPA 13 said it could only be eliminated in hotels / motels: 8.15.8.2* Closets and Pantries. Sprinklers are not required in clothes closets, linen closets, and pantries within dwelling units in hotels and motels where the area of the space does not exceed 24 ft2 (2.2 m2), the least dimension does not exceed 3 ft (0.9 m), and the walls and ceilings are surfaced with noncombustible or limited-combustible materials. So, even if the LSC is not recognized in an area, can you still take the exception noted above in Chap 21 and eliminate sprinklers in small closets since it is now part of the body of NFPA 13? Please feel free to call if you have any questions or comments. 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