Bill. 

Please don't do this without a pressure relief on a vessel. Or at least don't 
make the container that is "solid" use a liquified gas with a low boiling 
pressure. 

One ton Cl2 cylinders use very heavy walls. The ends are arched toward the 
product for security and strength. If you fail to leave a vapor space they 
bulge outward before the plugs fail. Not good. 

Bruce Verhei 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bill brooks" <bill.bro...@brooksfpe.com> 
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 2:42:27 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: RE: Excessive system pressure 

Rodney, 

You said you aren't hard headed and you understand the principles behind 
the system pressure increases. Here's a chance to prove both. 

1. Two containers of identical volume. One container 50% water, the 
other container 100% water. Each has been sitting in a 50 F room with 
the lid off. In other words the liquid and the containers are at 50F. 
Now make sure the 100% container is topped off and put lids on both. 
Read the pressure gage and satisfy yourself they both read "0". Move 
both containers into a 120 F room and come back when the two systems 
reach 120 F. 

2. Same as above, but remove 10% of the water from the filled container 
before capping and moving. 

When the systems reach 120 F, which container has the higher pressure in 
each of the cases above? 

Bill Brooks 

William N. Brooks, P.E. 
Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. 
372 Wilett Drive 
Severna Park, MD 21146 
410-544-3620 Phone 
410-544-3032 FAX 
412-400-6528 Cell 

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