Personally, I enjoy the levity. Also, humor tends to get people thinking "outside the box", which we sometimes need to do to answer the problems presented here.
At 11:54 AM 9/16/2009, you wrote: >I would respectfully request that Mr. Greenman and others keep their >responses and comments professional and to the point. Talking about >"pissing on the fire" hardly evokes sence of >professionalism. Sometimes the traffic on this forum is not what I >would expect from a group of professionals and errodes my confidence >in turning to it as a source of technical information and advise. > >Kevin Law, PE >Bechtel National, Inc. >Waste Treatment Project >Fire Protection Engineering >Work (509) 371-3280 >Cell (509) 531-5715 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman >Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:32 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Heads Under Platforms > >Somehow he must have the idea that if there is a fire under the >platform that it's better to wait until it releases enough heat to >fuse the ceiling heads that are shielded by the platform. My >preference would be to start pissing on the fire as soon as possible. >Uses less piss and burns up less stuff. So yes, he has backwards >thinking. Everything about the codes seems to (typically 'cause >there's always exceptions) direct the designer to get the water on >the fire as fast as possible. Why would you not want to do that? > >On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Forest Wilson ><[email protected]> wrote: > > In response to question 1, I utilize the listed shield in similar > > applications. It can't do any harm. > > In response to question 2, I don't use intermediate heads under duct > > or similar obstructions. I'm unaware of a requiement in NFPA 13 to do > > this. > > > > > > > > Forest Wilson > > > > Project Manager > > Cherokee Fire Protection Co. > > 3195 Dayton Xenia Rd Ste 900 > > Dayton OH 45434 > > > > ph: 937-376-2333 > > fx: 614-455-4324 > > cell: 937-307-5647 > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > Visit our blog: www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOTICE: The information contained in this email is intended to be > > solely for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is > > directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise > > confidential. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, > > anyone other than the named addressee (or a person authorized to > > deliver it to the named addressee). It should not be copied or > > forwarded to any unauthorized persons. If you have received this > > electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your > > system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the > > error by reply email or by calling Cherokee Fire Protection Co. at > > 888-347-3079 toll free. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thomas Watt <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:39:51 -0400 > > Subject: Heads Under Platforms > > > > I have a fire house which has 3 poles dropping from the living > > quarters to platforms in the apparatus bay. At this point they drop > > from a separate pole to the ground level. These platforms are steel > > with slots approximately > > 1/4 inch by 6 inches long. I piped them out with 155 QR Uprights the > > same as the high ceiling. > > > > Question: Shall/should these heads have a rack type shield to prevent > > cold-solder? > > > > Question: AHJ wants Intermediate heads so that they dont fuse before > > upper coverage responds. (He didn't say anything about the heads > > under > > ductwork.) > > Isn't this backward thinking? I would think you would want the closest > > head to activate first. Right? > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > > to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > > to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > >-- >Ron Greenman >Instructor >Fire Protection Engineering >Bates Technical College >Tacoma, WA > >Member: >SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA AFAA, WSAFM >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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