Jay Jay, That polemic was not addressing you or any other Forumite personally. It was a general observation. It is just happenstance that it was your email that I responded to.
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Jay Jay Blocker <[email protected]> wrote: > I recently recieved a letter from one of the local jurisdictions in Colorado > asking contractors NOT to send any reports to there office due to economic > reasons. I was told that Colorado was now one of the last 3 states that does > not have a State FM. Dont know how true that is but I do know when I am > asked not to send reports into th AHJ that is as Thom said > "Less Effective fire protection" > > J > > > > ________________________________ > From: Thom McMahon <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 12:23:21 PM > Subject: RE: Fire Pump Testing NFPA 25 requirements > > Let's face it in Colo. They think "Less Gov." is better Gov. But in reality > "Less Gov. in fire protection is just "Less Effective fire protection" > Colorado is I believe one of only like 8 states that doesn't have a State > Fire Marshal. And while the Colo. Div. of Fire Safety adopts codes and > standards, they are only enforceable in areas that do not have their own > inspectors. Last year the DFS finally got inspections for schools away from > the Div. of labor and industry. Which was inspecting based upon the 1986 > codes. > We may have come a long way baby, but if 1986 is where you're at, you're in > the wrong century! > > Thom McMahon, SET > Firetech, Inc. > 2560 Copper Ridge Dr > P.O. Box 882136 > Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 > Tel: 970-879-7952 > Fax: 970-879-7926 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BF Blake > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Fire Pump Testing NFPA 25 requirements > > > > Yup, I record bearing temps too. The old school method of using your hands > was taught to me years ago. I have since "upgraded" to a digital laser IR > probe, still use the hand method for back up. > > I have not seen fire pump testing enforced. I know of more than 25 fire > pumps (most are very small, 750 GPM, net 90s, vertical turbine) installed in > recent years that have ZERO ITM, none, nada zip, zilch. Some are in true > high rises (metro area), some are in F-1, F-2 and S-1, S-2 occupancies. One > is an R-4. Another is in a large E-occupancy. > > Most common local code here is IFC 2006 (see 901.6.1), simply not enforced. > > > I am waiting for failures, they're on their way. (Let me go on record, > catastrophic failures are on the way). > > (No place for home rule in fire protection..... that's part of the problem > IMHO... but lets have home rule and road construction get together. Where > are my purple stop signs in Ft Collins, my orange ones in Denver, and my > white ones in Castle Rock. How about square yield signs in Fort Lupton. > Let's have 4 lane high way bridges with a maximum live load of 4 tons in > Colorado Springs, and a maximum live load of 100 tons in Grand Junction. > Lets have black hydrants... Wait... Wait. I have those already - with white > bonnets. They blend in really nicely at night with the snow.) > > Byron > Freedom Fire > Longmont, CO (formerly a Florida boy) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Bates Technical College Tacoma, WA Member: SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA AFAA, WSAFM _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
