You pay your workers in Euros? Very progressive. On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Forest Wilson <[email protected]>wrote:
> It is worth noting that the Industry Promotion Fund is entirely funded > by union signstory contractors. > For each labor hour worked, signstory contractors must pay into the IP > Fund, in my area we pay .25€ hour. > This applies even if the contractor is not an NFSA member. > The AFSA was started as a training organization because the NFSA > refused to create an apprenticeship program for non union contractors. > I own a small union shop and I agree that it is important to belong to > an industry association. Traditionally, the union shops belong to the > NFSA for collective bargaining purposes, while the non union belong to > the AFSA for the apprenticeship training. However, both organizations > are actively soliciting both groups now. > The contractors that refuse to join one of these groups only reap the > benefits created at the expense of others. > > > Forest Wilson > > Project Manager > Cherokee Fire Protection Co. > 3195 Dayton Xenia Rd Ste 900 > Dayton OH 45434 > > ph: 937-376-2333 > fx: 614-455-4324 > cell: 937-307-5647 > > > . > > > > Visit our blog: www.cherokee-fire.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > NOTICE: The information contained in this email is intended to be > solely for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is > directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise > confidential. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, > anyone other than the named addressee (or a person autho > rized to > deliver it to the named addressee). It should not be copied or > forwarded to any unauthorized persons. If you have received this > electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your > system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the > error by reply email or by calling Cherokee Fire Protection Co. at > 888-347-3079 toll free. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Church <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:51:53 -0400 > Subject: RE: Fire Pump Testing NFPA 25 requirements > > Hey, we in PA just left early 80's BOCA in April 2004. > And our SFM doesn't look at sprinklers - > Unless arson or a buried fuel storage tank is involved. > > Our SFM is, however, coming out to MC a side-by-side burn next week at > the > PennBOC annual convention in Harrisburg. > > And this is where the difference in spkr associations shows up- > NFSA has taken care of getting the rooms built, delivered, & erected, > courtesy of some Industry Promotion Funds. If this were to be done by > AFSA, > there's some doubt a funding source would have been found, and we'd > have had > to do it ourselves. NFSA's regional mgr Ray Lonabaugh took care of the > arrangements. I'm not saying one is better than the other, I believe > (strongly) they both have a place in our industry. Most important thing > for > each of us is to support one or the other or both. > > glc > > -----Original Message----- > =0 > AFrom: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom > McMahon > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:23 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Fire Pump Testing NFPA 25 requirements > > Let's face it in Colo. They think "Less Gov." is better Gov. But in > reality > "Less Gov. in fire protection is just "Less Effective fire protection" > Colorado is I believe one of only like 8 states that doesn't have a > State > Fire Marshal. And while the Colo. Div. of Fire Safety adopts codes and > standards, they are only enforceable in areas that do not have their own > inspectors. Last year the DFS finally got inspections for schools away > from > the Div. of labor and industry. Which was inspecting based upon the 1986 > codes. > We may have come a long way baby, but if 1986 is where you're at, > you're in > the wrong century! > > Thom McMahon, SET > Firetech, Inc. > 2560 Copper Ridge Dr > P.O. Box 882136 > Steamboat Springs, CO 80488 > Tel: 970-879-7952 > Fax: 970-879-7926 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BF Blake > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Fire Pump Testing NFPA 25 requirements > > > > Yup, I record bearing temps too. The old school method of using your > hands > was taught to me years ago. I have since "upgraded" to a digital laser > IR > probe, > still use the hand method for back up. > > I have not seen fire pump testing enforced. I know of more than 25 fire > pumps (most are very small, 750 GPM, net 90s, vertical turbine) > installed in > recent years that have ZERO ITM, none, nada zip, zilch. Some are in > true > high rises (metro area), some are in F-1, F-2 and S-1, S-2 occupancies. > One > is an R-4. Another is in a large E-occupancy. > > Most common local code here is IFC 2006 (see 901.6.1), simply not > enforced. > > > I am waiting for failures, they're on their way. (Let me go on record, > catastrophic failures are on the way). > > (No place for home rule in fire protection..... that's part of the > problem > IMHO... but lets have home rule and road construction get together. > Where > are my purple stop signs in Ft Collins, my orange ones in Denver, and my > white ones in Castle Rock. How about square yield signs in Fort Lupton. > Let's have 4 lane high way bridges with a maximum live load of 4 tons in > Colorado Springs, and a maximum live load of 100 tons in Grand Junction. > Lets have black hydrants... Wait... Wait. I have those already - with > white > bonnets. They blend in really nicely at night with the snow.) > > Byron > Freedom Fire > Longmont, CO (formerly a Florida boy) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assista > nce, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[email protected]<to%[email protected]> > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
