"Was it an accident or deliberate? FD investigators are not usually trained in the FPE realm to offer such post fire analysis. Dave, am I off on this thinking. Not an NFPA 921 expert. " May depend on the charging legislation. Some states, the charge is to determine the origin and cause of every fire. If found to be incendiary (arson) then it gets referred to prosecutors or maybe another agency (police?) to follow through. In my experience most FD's will stop once they find it is accidental. There are issues of spoliation of evidence that come up if they go too far into removing, examining and/or testing physical evidence from the scene when there are other parties, such as insurance carriers, that will be getting involved. NFPA 921 is used by both the public and private sectors for conducting a fire investigation.
Dave David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP Firetech Engineering Incorporated --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Chris Cahill <[email protected]> wrote: From: Chris Cahill <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Report: Antifreeze sprinkler system may have contributed to fatalexplosion To: [email protected], "'Richard Mote'" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 5:53 PM One other thing. The role of the fire department investigator is to determine whether the crime of arson has occurred. Arguable once they say no evidence of arson they should be concluding the investigation. What happens after the fire started is not really their concern to be put in a report like this. Kind of like if you were shot the police don't investigate the damage to your body. Was it an accident or deliberate? FD investigators are not usually trained in the FPE realm to offer such post fire analysis. Dave, am I off on this thinking. Not an NFPA 921 expert. Chris Cahill, P.E. Fire Protection Engineer Sentry Fire Protection, Inc. 763-658-4483 763-658-4921 fax Email: [email protected] Mail: P.O. Box 69 Waverly, MN 55390 Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW Waverly, MN 55390 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Mote Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Report: Antifreeze sprinkler system may have contributed to fatalexplosion Say What? http://www.sierrasun.com/article/20091020/NEWS/910169995/1066&ParentProfile= 1051 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
