Tom,

When you say loony bin are you talking about guests, construction (as
you've just brought up) or both? Next year AFSA is going to be in
Rhode Island. That's close to Massachusetts, right? And both are like
counties, like of New England State, right? }:-)>

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Tom Duross <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ron:
> If you're ever up (or over) this way, check out the Fernald State School in
> Waltham, MA.  It's a loony bin.  It's where James Taylor wrote "Fire and
> Rain".  12" ductile, 2 1500 GPM pumps, all grooved and flanged, the whole
> room is 12" ductile; huge, heavy and high in the air.  Oh, and all
> belowground,  a bunker with 20' ceilings, built during the cold war era.
> Tom
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Good to know. Are they expecting the pump to be merely ductile or are
> they requiring one of those impossible to find at a price that won't
> break the Bank of Dubai pumps listed for per AWWA and UL?FM. Just had
> that come up on a private pump for a college campus where the EOR said
> it had to meet both criteria because there were fire lines off the
> dual duty loop. He was finally convinced that that loop for this small
> city sized campus was similar to a municipal loop and so the pump
> didn't need to rated for fire service. Then on the on-campus the high
> rises that needed booster pumps anyways and were off dedicated lines
> attached to the loop the pumps were UL/FM listed. My favorite Navy
> backflow install entailed a six inch riser splitting into a six inch
> bulk main and a four inch bulk main at about thirty feet off the
> floor. On the four in main (remember this is after the split) there is
> a four inch RPBA (remember thirty feet off the ground) installed with
> mega-lugs and rodding (guess what kind of contractor got that bid) and
> it's all over some machinery for a certain type of weapons testing
> (wish I could supply a photo but it's one of those have a camera and
> go to jail forever places). I pointed this out to the Navy Fire
> Department inspector years ago. This was years ago and hopefully it
> went to whomever is responsible (maybe the NAVFAC) and it's been
> corrected by now. Same building had the overhead crane grounded to the
> sprinkler system.
>
>
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Ron Greenman
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Fire Protection Engineering
Bates Technical College
Tacoma, WA

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