I agree the tunnel testing is an interesting discussion. And relevant to a
degree to this topic.

However, let's again look at the problem-
It's ONE trailer parked in a sprinklered building with protection suitable
for 14' hi Group A. How many deaths to we expect? The shielded area is
likely 8' wide x 40' long, so we could probably cover most of the 320 SF
area with printouts on 8.5x11 paper of these posts.

In modular home plants, we have dozens of these combustible structures, so
we use a 3 or 4k SF MRA. Here we have a 320 SF problem to address, hence my
original thought of putting an extra head down and pointed in the back of
the trailer.

glc

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Subject: trailer parked inside

No. A non-sprinklered fire will be smaller than a
sprinklered fire.  But, the scenario described
where a trailer is parked wholly-inside a building seems to have
some details of interest.


1. The trailer prevents most brake and engine area
   ignitions from involving the transported goods, at least for 5 - 10
minutes in light
   walled trailers.
2. The trailer walls enable flashover
3. Flashover would entrain sprinkler droplets into the trailer
4. The trailer walls/ceiling would shield direct sprinkler spray from
reaching the fire.
5. Light walled trailers (rental truck style) will have walls/ceilings that
fail to
    flashover exposure in a short time (5-10 minutes)
6. Once the trailer walls fail, the fire is no longer ventilation limited,
    but it also is exposed directly to sprinkler water and subsequently
    will be contained.   However, in the case of the tunnel
    test (or in the case of trailers parked inside structures without
    sprinklers), the lack of walls now gives the fire all the air it needs
to grow to
    a size which has been measured to grow 10-20 times bigger).
6. Heavier walled trailers and steel containers will shield the trailer
    fire from direct sprinkler spray for the fire duration.

With the overhead sprinkler system and inside-parked trailer scenario
as described, a fire burning solid commodity inside the trailer would
not extend further than the immediate vicinity of the trailer.
While the trailer walls/ceiling are still intact, the fire will continue
burning,
albeit at slightly lower strength. Spill control around the trailer
would be a favorable factor.

scot deal
excelsior fire
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