Didn't matter on Jim's - pump and tank.
Assume air gap, since tank non-potable.
So drilled check is fine- except when water replaces what dribbled out.

As for dry vrs AF, can't use CPVC with dry; dry pend are $$$ and may not fit
in small space allotted; in 13d the unlisted bladder is $75, so what= put it
in! We've done a lot of AF systems just so we could make an installation
practical- i.e, rather CPVC/AF than dry with steel, drains and couplings
every 2'.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:41 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Antifreeze Backflow Prevention

Sorry...unclear wording.

I meant that you could use either:

1) an RPZ at the riser, and a drilled check valve at the loop
2) a double check bfp at the  riser and an RPZ at the loop

We sometimes use the second setup since RPZ's cost so much more than DC
BFP's. If the primary riser is 4,6,8" and the antifreeze loop only needs a
1.25" RPZ, it can be less expensive to use 2 bfp's.

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
*Licensed in KS & MO 

913.888.0647 ph 
913.888.0618 f 
913.927.0222 cell 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland
Huggins
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Antifreeze Backflow Prevention

What's your basis for requiring two backflow prevention devices?  You  
can use the U-loop with the drilled check valve on the antifreeze  
system w/o a BFP but then your backflow protection between the  
sprinkler system and the potable water can no longer be just a double  
check BFP but must be a reduced-pressure type.

Roland

On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Matt Grise wrote:

> You are correct. There needs to be backflow protection between the  
> public/domestic supply and the sprinkler system, and  also between  
> the wet system and the antifreeze loop.
>
> Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP
> Sales Engineer
> Alliance Fire Protection
> *Licensed in KS & MO
>
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