Interesting twist on your interpretation. Is 8.15.7 simply saying that the
listed head can be used for composite wood joists, or saying it can be used
for composite wood joist applications without necessarily complying with the
listing requirements? If Tyco did not complicate things by giving composte
wood joist applications, life would have been much simpler.

Anyway what happened to the minimum 2" heat channel given in 2002? If I'm
not mistaken Tyco listing was the same for 2002. Would you get the heat
channel with the joist space filled with insulation?

Meanwhile, I'm going with standard quick response heads. I know the CC heads
will be better. But at least I can defend the use of std. heads as being not
prohibited by NFPA.

Tony  

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland
Huggins
Sent: April 14, 2010 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CC sprinklers

multiple parameters are required in order for the requirement for listed
sprinklers to apply.  Obviously must be a concealed space no more than 36
inches from deck to deck but specifically must have a combustible upper
surface with wood trusses or solid wood joist and be horizontal.  ALL OF
THOSE PARAMETERS must be in place.  The really interesting part is that if
it contains composite wood joists and one elects to use a listed sprinkler
(since they work better in since narrow spaces), 8.15.1.7 allows their use
without applying the listing requirement for the channels to be filled with
insulation.

Roland

On May 14, 2010, at 9:40 PM, A.P.Silva wrote:

>
> NFPA has requirements for combustible concealed space sprinklers.  
> However,
> the TYCO CC sprinklers have their own  restrictions on the 
> application. Such as, to be used for light hazard only. If used with 
> TJI's, the TJI space has to be filled with non-combustible insulation 
> etc. What happens if these restrictions don't apply. Use standard 
> heads? Or use CC heads regardless, as they are required by NFPA?
>
> What I have is a 24" to 36" deep crawlspace, the ceiling of which 
> comprises of TJI's which are exposed to the space below. The 
> insulation is on the floor and not in the TJI space. The building is a 
> school, but specd.
> To be
> designed for OH 1. Any comments?
>
> Also, any other manufacturer's for CC heads?
>
> Tony
>
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