If the room (hall) is less than 300 sqft it could be classified as panel
(obstructed) construction and a 22 inch deflector would be okay. Would
that take care of the problem?

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne
Martinez
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Ceiling pocket

It doesn't meet the definition provided by 3.3.4, NFPA 13 (10ed) but I
think it meets the intent of the rule.
You would think that since the volume of the high area is within the
limits if what is required to apply the ceiling pocket rule then there
would not be a significant delay in sprinkler operation for the
deflector positioned below the soffit.
But where do you draw the line?  Using my Vulcan logic, one could apply
this thinking to any small room with a soffit and I do not think this is
the correct road to follow.
Dewayne  

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd
Williams
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Ceiling pocket

Deflector will be about 14". Duct insulation and at least 1" below to
get it in the fitting.



At 09:25 AM 7/2/2010, you wrote:
>Still on first cup so..
>
>What is the prob with 7'-1"? Can the deflector be installed at 12"
(even
>with BOD) either as upright or pend?
>
>  Matt
>
>
>
>Matthew J. Willis, CET
>Automatic Fire Sprinklers
>Norred Fire Systems L.L.C.
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> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [email protected]
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> > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Williams
> > >Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:15 AM
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Ceiling pocket
> > >
> > >I am working on a building with a 9'-3" wide corridor. Along one
wall
> > >is a duct 2'-9" wide and 12" deep. The sprinkler piping in this
space
> > >will be exposed. My original plan was to run a line along side of
the
> > >duct  with sidewalls and put pendent sprinklers under the duct.
> > >(running along the other wall is not an option.) However, the
pendent
> > >sprinklers under the duct will be 7'-1" from the far wall. I was
> > >looking to see if I could apply the ceiling pocket  section to this
> > >scenario and eliminate the sidewalls. The total volume of the
pocket
> > >is approximately 225 cubic feet. I can't see why this wouldn't
apply,
> > >but it seems an odd use of the rule. Thoughts?
> > >
> > >Todd G. Williams, PE
> > >Fire Protection Design/Consulting
> > >Stonington, CT
> > >860.535.2080
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