Is it kosher to just tell him "cuz Roland says so!"? :) Hehehe...
________________________________ From: Ron Greenman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:47:50 AM Subject: Re: Residential "Room Design Method"? You might show them the latter part of the thread and a copy of the book with Roland's name in it. This may not work though. I've had an AHJ whose never been to a committee meeting, or even know he was talking to a committee member (not me for this one) say Roland was misinterpreting the intent of the code. Those folks that Cecil alluded to having a why don't you discussion (jack and Ken) also have some firepower when it comes to explaining what was meant. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Carrol Glimstad <[email protected]> wrote: > Yup, it was printed in 2004, unfortunately that's the only "white paper" that I > see regarding Residential and it's posted on their website. Think a bit of > updating might be in order! :) > Carrol > > > ________________________________ > From: Roland Huggins <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:24:00 AM > Subject: Re: Residential "Room Design Method"? > > well it didn't occur in 02 so it wouldn't be in OLD Tyco data. As others have > pointed out, the explicit reference in 13:11.3 is all the fire power one needs. > > Roland > > On Nov 2, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Carrol Glimstad wrote: > >> Makes perfect sense to me! But, BUT what do I do when I look to NFPA to give >>me >> some fire power to help with convincing my plan reviewer and "they" come back >> with the response that small rooms are NOT allowed to be considered in >> residential applications? I guess I'm assuming that when the sprinkler head's >> manufacturer's cut sheet states " a minimum discharge of 0.1 GPM/sq. ft. over >> the "design area" comprised of the four most hydraulically demanding > sprinklers >> for actual coverage areas protected by the four sprinklers.", that "actual" >> means ACTUAL. Yes, my head is 10 feet off of two walls, but my flow table on >>my >> LFII cut sheet tells me that I can and that I'm gonna hit that back wall as >>long >> as I have the flow and pressure to back it up. But my actual coverage area is >> NOT 400 sq. ft.! Not even close. >> >> It doesn't help my situation either when in the Tyco white paper on > "Residental >> Sprinklers Used in NFPA 13, 2002 Applications", the author makes NO reference >>at >> all to 8.6.2.1.2. He only cites the S x L rule for determining coverage > areas. >> (big sigh...) >> >> Carrol Glimstad >> Sierra Fire Design >> >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: AFSA, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, NFSA, AFAA, ASEE, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
