First of all, congrats to George, Thom and all the others that have had an important hand in getting PA to be first to the races, and that goes for Steve and Bruce and all our friends in California too! Second, NICET Level 2 was always intended to be the minimum for residential "designers". That says nothing as to who installs. See local law for that. Third, if we need a recognition for who is qualified to install, why on earth would we go to the Sanitary Engineers?!?!?!? I would strongly urge everyone to look to the upcoming Residential Contractor recognition being developed by ICC and others. I have no problem with a qualified plumbing contractor getting involved in residential work. And while "it ain't rocket science", it sure as hell better be right. And EVERY installer better be insured to the levels that all of my friends in fire protection have had to be! Have a great new year!! Cecil Bilbo Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology Did somebody mention making history??????? > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: a little history > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:43:52 -0700 > > The requirement for NICET is not in 13D or IRC. The state and local fire > officials will have to decide what level of "knowledge and training" they > will accept for designs of these systems. I believe that the IRC P2904 was > supposed to make it possible for anyone with high school math skills, to be > capable of calculating a residential system. Network systems like Wisbo, > still require "factory" engineering, since it is a proprietary formula and > calc program. > Yes I believe that NICET is the best answer when in doubt, but I also > believe that just as plumber have Residential, Journeyman and masters > designations, NICET may need to develop a ??yr residential design program. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Davidson > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 2:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: a little history > > TO all, > > Do not worry the plumber's are asking the American Society of Sanitary > Engineers (ASSE) to develop a certification program for the plumber to use > to get certified to design and install residential sprinkler systems, if it > is like the ASSE 6000 series certification for medical gas systems, beware. > The plumbing industry is pushing it because the plumbers do not want to pass > the NICET testing requirements for design or installation. Just a quick > heads up to all. > > Have a Happy New Year. > > Jim Davidson > > Davidson Associates > Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting > 302-994-9500 Fax:302-234-1781 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
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