That's lol  funny thanks for sharing. 

Have great holiday and a great 2011!

Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: Coastal <[email protected]>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:12:49 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected], Coastal <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: a little history

Hello Cabralmike,

I added a tag line to my 13d quotes a long time ago. " This quote prepared by a 
certified technician, NOT the guy that gets your poop to the curb."

Friday, December 31, 2010, 6:42:28 PM, you wrote:

> I have had a fair amount of interaction with plumbers doing 13 D multipurpose 
> systems
> (not because I wanted to) The ability to install these systems according to 
> an approved
> plan is something that most can do. When there are changes to the home during
> construction resulting in a modification to the system that's where the fun 
> begins.

> Most do not even recognize the issue until they have gone through it a few 
> times. If
> there is a competent AHJ in the jurisdiction that's who will catch the need 
> for a
> modification. (Often after the sheet rock is installed) 

> A custom home in my view, presents a very challenging design even to an 
> experienced
> designer and when its a moving target because of construction changes it 
> becomes even
> more difficult. Add a long distance designer and a limited experienced 
> installer it
> becomes a real nightmare. Nobody makes any money except FedEx. 

> The builder is hot because of delays. The designer has to pull information 
> out of the
> air and the AHJ becomes concerned as to everyone's ability.

> If there is a value to a multipurpose system and I think there is. . .
> Why should a plumber be able to find a short cut into the market if a 
> sprinkler
> contractor can't make a potable connection to a toilet.

> Happy New Year to all 

> Mike Cabral

>  

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jim Davidson" <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:10:24 
> To: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: a little history

> TO all,

> Do not worry the plumber's are asking the American Society of Sanitary 
> Engineers (ASSE)
> to develop a certification program for the plumber to use to get certified to 
> design and
> install residential sprinkler systems, if it is like the ASSE 6000 series 
> certification
> for medical gas systems, beware. The plumbing industry is pushing it because 
> the
> plumbers do not want to pass the NICET testing requirements for design or 
> installation. Just a quick heads up to all.

> Have a Happy New Year. 

> Jim Davidson 
>  
> Davidson Associates 
> Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting  
> 302-994-9500   Fax:302-234-1781


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Church
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 3:46 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: a little history

> Within our span of control, yes- and we've certainly reached out to the 
> plumbers during
> our seminars to expose them to the necessary steps and where to find 
> support/training.

> George Church'
> Rowe Sprinkler
> [email protected]
> 570-837-7647

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 3:18 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: a little history

> I just hope that the designs are done by experienced NICET Certified 
> technicians. 
>  
> PLG
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