Cecil, Congrats on the grads! Keep pumping them out. It will be very interesting to see what the Task Force comes out with.
At 09:16 AM 3/29/2011, you wrote: >I am not sure where you guys have landed in this discussion, but wanted to >chime in with the latest work being done by the NFPA 13 Committee. And more >specifically, the work being done by the "Ceiling Cloud Task Group". We have >begun the tough process of introducing changes to the standard that will >inlcude rules for ceiling clouds. I gave a presentation to the Committee of >our task group's work at the ROP meeting in February. The task group includes >the Chair, David Fuller from FM Global, and Steve Scandaliato, Mike Meehan and >others. (Please, if you don't know who these people are, take a miute to look >them up. It is awesome to know these folks!) > >As it currently stands, ceiling clouds are obstructions and require sprinklers >beneath (resulting in protection above and below). The calculations are only >required to include one level of the sprinklers. Both are NOT requiredto be >calculated together. No addtional sprinklers from the lower elevation are >required to be included in the remote area at the deck. And vice versa. >However, you would need to calculate both levels to determine which is the >most demanding area. > >We are asking the Research Foundation (NPRF) to sponsor testing of the >scenarios that Tom Wellen has modeled. All of the Task Group's work starts >with Tom's models. We have yet to come to any conclusions for the new rules. >But we will likely have separate guidance in the 2013 edition for cloud >ceilings so that you will not always have to have sprinklers required above >and below and how one might have to calculate these scenarios. (the Academy >students got to draw some of the examples that we hope make it into the >standard...) > >And by the way..... the Academy ROCKS!!! We are graduating our first students >next month. Four folks will be getting their Associate's Degree in Sprinkler >System Technology from Parkland College!! We are going to have one serious >party. And you are all invited to come! (Now, if I can just get Ron Greenman >to move to Champaign...) > > >It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the NFPA, >and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance with the >NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore not be >considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the NFPA, nor any >of their technical committees. > > >Sincerely, > > >Cecil Bilbo >Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology >Champaign, IL >217.607.0325 >www.sprinkleracademy.com >[email protected] > >OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860.535.2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
