Only one question- was the mtg documented so you have a copy to take to court 
in 2014?


George L.  Church, Jr., CET  
Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
PO Box 407, Middleburg, PA 17842
877-324-ROWE       570-837-6335 fax
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rod DiBona
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Building trade off update


I wanted to follow up and let everyone who helped me think through the process 
know what happened. This was a new two story courthouse (A3) with a combustible 
attic above the 2nd floor and a single (B) occupancy attached adjacent on the 
ground floor.  IBC 2009. He was sprinklering the basement, 1st and 2nd but not 
the attic. We met with the Architect and and asked him if he could educate us 
on his decision tree that allowed:


 1.   No sprinklers in the combustible attic that was draft stopped every 3,000 
ft.
 2.   Install fire protection on the first and second floors (not  required 
systems in the A3) to allow a reduction in fire rating of the corridor walls, 
stairs, and the wall separating the courtroom A3 from the B occupancy.
 3.  His logic for not mandating an increase of the design area on the 2nd 
floor to 3,000 ft.

His answers were:


 1.  The IBC 2009 doesn't require sprinklers  except for the basement, so NFPA 
13 isn't applicable.
 2.  He stated that the IBC allows for reduction with partial systems. 901.2 
"exception"
 3.  He believed that because partial systems are allowed and that because the 
code didn't require a system in the attic that we wouldn't need to increase our 
area on the 2nd floor even though the combustible attic above was unsprinklered.

We took the advice of GC / Roland and others and listened and accepted what he 
said. The tone of the meeting was very good and at the end of the day I am glad 
he chose more sprinklers than required in lieu of more rating. I personally 
don't agree with the lack of increase in area ( question #3) but as it has been 
pointed out...... not my decision.

Thanks for all the input and help. We learn and move on.


Rod DiBona
Rapid Fire Protection

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