I think you should do the correct installation, regardless of what the PE shows. Bid it to install correctly, if you can't get a response from the PE prior to bid.
Most of those comments regarding transfer of liability would be chewed up and spit out by any half decent attorney. At 01:44 PM 10/5/2011, you wrote: >I know this has been brought up before, but how are you handling >pre-engineered projects where they are not showing these specially listed >heads (Tyco CC1/CC2 or Viking COIN) as req'd per NFPA 13? We are seeing >several of these again where there is a flat roof, less than 36" of clearance >between roof and ceiling and the PE is showing SSU sprinklers in the space. >These are projects that have been reviewed by the local AHJ and approved. Do >you just install per the plan and say the responsibility is to some one else? >In this particular jurisdiction, even if the piping is installed per the >approved plans, the inspectors can and have required changes to the system to >correct plan review errors. What if the project gets installed / inspected >per plan and there is a fire later on where the sprinkler system is not able >to contain the fire in the concealed space because of incorrect heads? >Where does the liability go? One project in particular has the typical PE >comment: The installing contractor is to take full responsibility for >installing a system per NFPA 13 and shall add heads as needed at no additional >costs after bid. Is this able to transfer liability to the contractor? > >One of my customers does a lot of multi-family type projects and we are seeing >this over and over. I have been working with him to educate his GC's and the >architects / engineers on this issue, but there are still many projects that >come across his desk for bid like this. Does anyone have a practical >solution? We are trying to RFI these projects, but many times the PE will not >respond to the questions prior to the bid date. > >Sorry for the long run on questions. Thanks in advance for your assistance. > >-- >Please feel free to call if you have any questions or comments. > >Sincerely, > >Travis Mack, SET >MFP Design, LLC >2508 E Lodgepole Drive >Gilbert, AZ 85298 >Office (480) 505-9271 >Fax (866) 430-6107 > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860.535.2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
